Ricleite, as usual, is an impeccable work.
Un saludo
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[Fertig] BAC Lightning - Fly Model (1:33)
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Originally posted by Norman
(My portuguese isn't that great, I hope I didn't say anything wrong )You did, Norman, but I appreciate the effort and got the whole message :prost:
Vikto_dos - nice to see you here. Otro saludo para tiGetting to the Lightning back (no, I didn't mess it up) I show the nozzles. The card formers on the second picture are not yet glued. It is advisable to make the holes a little bit wider than printed...
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The fairing between the nozzles kept me guessing for a while. I hope it is properly glued...
The picture was taken with flash and is very poor but gives a better view of the interior. -
The front end is a lot simpler than the rear one. The cone is movable, like in the rear plane, in order to get the correct airflow to feed the engines. It is a pity that the intake is modelled only up to the first diaphragm. Despite being black, it is easily visible
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The pilot's seat has a lot of parts and 3 of them are clearly too large: the two white squares (parts 10a) and another one, to the bottom left of the first picture. As the only task needed to correct them is to trim, it is an easy task.
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hi ricardo!
wow - i like what you are showing us... extremly neat built. Do you have hints for us in general? I mean, I can do what I want but I'm sure I won't build as clean as you do... :rotwerd:
like to see more!
Regards, Tom
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@ Thomas - thanks for your comment
Regarding hints and tips, of course I'm willing to describe how I work, I mean, how I have fun building paper models
I try to do just that but it would me much easier to answer specific questions. If you have one (or a dozen...) go ahead
The only snag is that I'll be 'off' for a few days, until next Wednesday. -
Hi Norman,
If I know the F-15 and Halinski well, you will have your hands full for quite some time
I have some Halinski kits to build but no courage (yet...) to start one. In the meantime, I'm eagerly looking at construction reports and there are some very interesting ones going. Including yours, of course :prost:Back to the Lightning, I had some minor problems with the cockpit. Some parts need trimming or extra fold lines to fit the formers. Well, I guess that is part of the fun...
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Hi Ricardo,
Enchanting!!!
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Glad you liked it, Yu :). But I was not lucky or careful enough to put the rolled paper ends facing downwards
The cockpit back and the pilot's seat are not yet glued, on today's pictures. I'm still far from sure that they will fit well, inside the canopy... -
Ricardo, think of it as the chinese flaw on a otherwise perfect build.
regards
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That's it, Royaloakmin: positive thinking
The forward landing gear well is quite big! The lateral card-reinforced parts need trimming at the front end, to allow the nose cone to move fore and aft. -
The main landing gear main doors have a fair share of small parts, too!
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Hello Ricardo,
The construction goes well i see.
I read about your concern over some of the parts not fitting
as well as hoped,but i never would have known if you had not
mentioned it.The build looks flawless to me so well done.
I have been very busy enlarging the formers and other internal
parts ready for construction and this has gone well.
Far from being encouraged to build this model,i look at your
skill and doubt that i could construct the Lightning as cleanly
as yours.Keep up the good work Ricardo and many thanks for the
pictures as always.Best regards,
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Nice to have you back, Keith, and many thanks for your kind comments
I'm moving now to the flying surfaces of every kind. The main landing gear wells are very shallow because they are modelled only below the bigger part of the wing structure. -
Ricardo, you clearly have a talent for aircraft, too. I have a question as to when you color edges. Do you usuually color them when first cut out or do you wait until after assembly? Or sometimes both? Your pristine edges really sets your work apart.
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Hi Ricardo,
Yet more precision craftsmanship from you on the wing build
and the tail also looks superb.I am progressing well now towards completion of all the
internal structure parts and so onto the cutting out part
then assembly.I stopped just long enough to buy the Orlik 1/33 scale
De Havilland Mosquito yesterday and that too will be
getting the 1/16 scale enlargement treatment when ready!All the best to you Ricardo and thanks again for such good
pictures and helpfull notes.Best regards,
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I stopped just long enough to buy the Orlik 1/33 scale De Havilland Mosquito yesterday and that too will be getting the 1/16 scale enlargement treatment when ready!
I'm so happy to see more people building in a sensible scale! - Leif
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Hi Leif,
There is no other scale!
Best regards,
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Hy Keith and Leif,
say that again and build an A-380 ! :D:D
But i agree with both of you - 1/16 seems to be the answer to all of us who try desperately to handle all those tiny parts in nowadays kit´s ..
cheers,
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Ricardo - Your builds are always so clean!
You cant stop of impressing me even when I know that the result will be very good.
It seems that your models are not made from separeted pieces but only one big piece. It just seems that they were born already ready.
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@ Royaloakmin - I always paint the edges with pens before assembling the parts. That's the only way to be sure that the paint adheres correctly and uniformly. Sometimes, I have to retouch after gluing but only if really needed.
@ Leif and Keith - please don't ask publishers to go to 1/16. I bet the small parts would continue to be small but there would be four times as much!
@ Tino - thanks for your comment :). You know that they do have more than 1 partIt is strange but the joint of the ailerons painted part is not at the back but at the front. That means the part's front edges have to be curved with a small radius. It is riskier than curving it at the middle because the card may start to delaminate near the edges. At the middle, it would be confined and stabilized by the adjacent, not curved, sections. Fortunately, it went much better than I feared, meaning that card quality is good!
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oh my... 1/16? it's furniture, not a model...
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Hi Ricardo,
You impress me with all of your model you have made so far. So I have consumed all the words to praise your work but today I just passed by your thread and want to say hello....
BTW, I think I have already asked you once but perhaps because of age I forgot it. That is about your trusty knife. After long time of spying on the movements of a great modeler, I guess one of secret behind your success must be that trusty knife
I want to buy similar kind of knife as you use. Mind telling me what kind of knife do you use? -
Norman - That was funny!
Ricardo - Yes, I know that you have much work before that nice final result.
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@ Yu- No secret, as always the "trusty knife" was not bought but built from a out-of-use steel jigsaw. I enclose a picture of it.
@ Tino - you're right: a lot of work left! The front landing gear alone has close to 50 parts :(...The flat construction is similar to the ailerons: a solid card structure inside, a couple of wire bits and a single coloured part.
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The wings are complete. I only had to trim the front ends of the original formers. Otherwise, there wouldn't be enough space inside the printed parts...
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Hmmm, have you ever seen a skeleton with wings?
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Hi Ricardo,
Thank you for showing your trusty knife.
I think curvature on knife blade must be the key to cut small parts clean especially curved parts.:party:
Someone told me long ago
Theres no skelton with wings
I know its been coming for the first time
Coming down to the kartonbau
I want to know have you ever seen a skelton with wings
Coming down to the kartonbau
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That's it, Yu - curvature with varying radius. You can use the knife at different positions to adjust to different tasks
Be calm, I took the wings off the skeleton and they will be off until the skeleton is properly dressed
The front landing gear must rank as one of the most intricate assemblies I've ever made. It has close to 50 parts, excluding the wheel and the landing gear doors!... -
Hello Ricardo,
Your work progresses in leaps & bounds i see.
The detail and quality as ever is truly your trademark.In a much slower way my build has begun and the more
i look at the front undercarriage,the more i wonder if i
should re-size again to 1/8th scale as the parts are so
small.The only thing stopping me is that i need my garage to
keep the car in!The Mosquito has been returned as it just did not scale
up clear enough,but i thinkthis will focus my attention
on the Lightining which is what i was supposed to be
doing in the first place.(p.s. What will your next build be?)
Thanks as always for your updates they are much
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@ Keith - well, my work progresses mainly at weekends. Working, on average, 8 hours a day 40km away from home is not very helpful to have a good and steady build speed
The good news is that the holidays are getting closer
After completing the Lightning (that should take some more weekends...) I intend to get back to buildings for a while. The big model for the holidays should be Schreiber's Petersdom. With a little over 2000 parts, it will keep me happy for quite some time...
@ Norman - hmm, perhaps the hardest part is to glue the parts cleanly
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Hello Ricardo,
Yes i can understand the long work days as i do 10.5 hours
a day plus a 25 km drive and like you only have part of the
weekend to build the models.Can i ask how you found the construction of the fuselage
and have you begun yet to apply the fuselage skins?The front undercarriage leg is a work of art and very tricky
by the look of things.
But looks very impressive and guess the main gear legs
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@ Keith - Assembling the fuselage structure was a piece of cake. The rear part was a bit more complicated because the formers have big holes (for the jet exhausts) that have to be cut carefully. I didn't yet start to apply the fuselage skins but that should come this weekend
The front landing gear is complete. I was happy to notice that it is rather strong, and surely able to take the model's weight. Most of it will go to the main landing gear, anyway... -
Hello Ricardo,
Thankyou very much for the information.
Best regards,
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Ricardo, although I have commented on this model in another forum, I needed to comment here in my language.
You are probably one of the best modelers I have ever seen, your pieces always fit perfectly without a trace of glue. Even the edge colorings are perfect.
I have only been modeling in paper for a little over a year and I knowthat I will never reach the level of quality that you have. Your models are an inspiration for me.
I bow to you my friend.
Curvo-me a você meu amigo.I hope that came out right.
DavidESP
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Hear, hear
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@ Keith - your questions are definitely welcome In fact, they make my life easier because, sometimes, I don't really know what to say :rotwerd:
@ David - it came right and thanks for the gross exaggeration :). You know that I dont' feel very comfortable with that kind of words when there are so many great modellers around, like you and Yu
The main landing gear has comparatively few parts. I added a few, in order to get a proper base to glue and facilitate the work... -
Glad you like it, Norman How is your Portuguese going?
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Hi Ricardo,
The work goes on and the detail stands out.
Could i ask you do you use the knife for all of the cutting even
for the circles or do you have a compass type cutting tool for
those circles,such as the jet knozzle former openings on the
Lightning?I think i wil have to but a hole punch tool for the smaller holes
as in your picture too.Thankyou as always for the pictures you show and the help
that you give.Kind regards,
Keith.