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Thursday, December 4th 2008, 3:54am

RE: The Clock Tower

Hi John,
Seeing last three pictures I feel like as if I am standing on the courtyard and looking up real building, and am charmed with it.

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Thursday, December 4th 2008, 3:18pm

RE: The Clock Tower

Hi Yu,
Thank you for your appreciative reaction to the three photographs. I value your sensitive, artistic eye. You have a gift for this.

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Friday, December 5th 2008, 2:00am

RE: The Clock Tower

At this point, the mid section of the clock tower resembles a section of a lighthouse...
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Friday, December 5th 2008, 3:20am

RE: The Clock Tower

Now to the clock itself. It is projected outward from the tower walls by means of four disks glued together. I am curious about the roman numeral 4 on the clock faces. Can anyone tell me why the roman numeral IV always appears on analogue period clocks as IIII? I would be interested in knowing the reasoning behind this convention.

I include here a photograph of a paper wall clock I built some years ago. Yes, there it is again...IIII.
You can clearly see that I did not know about edge colouring at that time.

That clock was a lot of fun to build. It works when pampered, but would have to be refurbished and redesigned in some ways to operate continually. Great conversation piece in the family room nonetheless.

P.S. Notice that the clocks on the model are indicating time within minutes of the clock in my family room made almost thirty years ago. Spooky.
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Friday, December 5th 2008, 11:20am

RE: The Clock Tower

Hi John,
thank You for Your report. It shows how Yoa are building a very fine model. It is interesting to look at at the building's progress.

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Friday, December 5th 2008, 2:44pm

John, the paper wall clock is absolutely amazing @)
You mean it is was designed to work ???!!!!

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Friday, December 5th 2008, 3:35pm

The Paper Clock

Yes, Ricardo, it does work! The escape levers rock back and forth letting the timing cog power the gears. The clock is driven by a paper weight cylinder filled with sand. The pendulum hits the escape levers with its swing.
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Friday, December 5th 2008, 4:11pm

Hello modellschiff,
Thank you for your kind words. The larger scale of this model provides a nice change.

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Friday, December 5th 2008, 4:24pm

RE: The Clock Tower

HI John:

Follow this link to answer you question about IIII vs. IV on old clocks.

http://www.ubr.com/clocks/frequently-ask…lock-dials.aspx

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Friday, December 5th 2008, 4:47pm

RE: The Clock Tower

Hello Don Quod,

Welcome to the Forum!

Thank you for the link! Most interesting reading. There definitely is logic and reasoning behind the theories.


I like the symmetry arguments.
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Friday, December 5th 2008, 11:29pm

RE: The Clock Tower

Working with larger scales really becomes fun when you feel that you are modelling things with greater detail.

I am now enjoying the 1:100 ratio. The balcony around the clock is made with hollow corner posts. The balustrades are two sided with the joining top piece becoming the cap rail. I have cut off most of the tabs and used templates and filler pieces for greater accuracy.
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Saturday, December 6th 2008, 3:16am

You are right John, the clock tower will be the highlight of the model from the room perspective. Always good to keep it fun.
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Saturday, December 6th 2008, 6:42am

Dear John,

Once again very nice work you are showing us! I like the model more and more. By now I have stopped building model due to my total lack of time, but seeing this I am very tempted to build something again. Only if Iwould have the time...

Have a nice Christmas time,

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Saturday, December 6th 2008, 12:47pm

Hello Matthias.
It is so good to hear from you. It sounds as though you are a very busy boy. I do hope you make time for yourself. Maybe a little bit of card modelling time is just what is needed! Life is short.

Thank you for your kind comments. Merry Christmas to you and your family.

Here is a full scale diagram of the clock tower. At this point, we are up at part G6 - that's seven meters above the balcony and 31.5 meters above the ground. We have 11 meters to go.

G10 will be the jewel in the crown.
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Saturday, December 6th 2008, 4:29pm

Upward

Moving on up...
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Saturday, December 6th 2008, 5:09pm

The Dome

And here we are at the part that will set the personality of kasteel Nijenrode - the distinctive segmented dome. Let's hope we can get this right...
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Sunday, December 7th 2008, 3:24pm

RE: The Dome

The dome is in place. Its construction was easier than I had anticipated. Being open at both ends, it was easy to get a finger inside to hold the tabs.
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Sunday, December 7th 2008, 5:04pm

The Belfry

We are getting close to the top. I had no idea that the little tower above the dome housed bells.
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Sunday, December 7th 2008, 5:54pm

The Steeple

The steeple being mounted...
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Sunday, December 7th 2008, 5:57pm

And so we come to the top of the tower, 42 meters above the ground. This portion of the castle has been fun to build.
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Monday, December 8th 2008, 11:45pm

The Chimneys

The three large chimneys are large enough to form up with octagonal templates inside. Some of the parts did not fit correctly. Some new parts were made out of 1 mm card.
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Monday, December 8th 2008, 11:58pm

The Flag Pole

The flagpole and the surrounding ring of foliage completely fooled me. I was calling the feature a well. Fuzzy thinking. It couldn't be a well with a flagpole in the centre...

It turns out that the circle is a solid growth of hedge. It has me baffled. There is no way in to the center. How would the gardener trim the inside of the hedge wall? How would the groundskeeper run up and retrieve the flags?

The painting of the castle shows that the flagpole is a bit different. It has a cross arm similar to yards on the mast of a ship. It is located about 4/5 of the way up the centre pole. Perhaps the national flag and the flag of the school could be flown at the same time on different arms. I could solder up a little flagpole to stick into the paper base.

It looks very naval. Perhaps being in The Netherlands...?

Gert?
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Tuesday, December 9th 2008, 12:12pm

Good Morning Hagen.

Merry Christmas! I love the Santa hat on your helm.

Very clever and imaginative Hagen. Some kind of magic moving hedges from the maze really appeals to me. A mystical castle.

The castle has a bit of work yet. The next project will be to build the front wall and start the large stone courtyard entrance. It looks interesting.

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Tuesday, December 9th 2008, 2:31pm

RE: Kasteel Nijenrode/Breukelen 1:100

I hope that Gert will not be angry with me -what I want to tell is not directly related to the model; it is just an answer to John's question:

By using the term "The Netherlands" we mean the entire country, like "Belgium", "France", "Argentina" etc.

"Holland" is commonly accepted as a synonym of "the Netherlands", but in fact it could lead to some confusion because ages ago, "Holland" indicated only the western part of what later became "the Netherlands" (which means 'the low lands at the sea').

The Netherlands is divided in twelve provinces, and among them are "Noord-Holland" an "Zuid-Holland", both situated in the western part: their names still indicate their origine.

"Utrecht" is also one of the twelve provinces. (But don't be mistaken: "Utrecht" is also the name of the capital of this province...!)

So "Breukelen" is a village (or maybe a small town, I don't know) situated in the province of "Utrecht", which is one of the twelve provinces that form togeher "The Netherlands".
It is as simple as that :)

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Tuesday, December 9th 2008, 2:35pm

RE: Kasteel Nijenrode/Breukelen 1:100

Sorry, I now realise that Gert already answered this question more or less -but I hope to have added some usefull information.

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Tuesday, December 9th 2008, 3:14pm

The detail on the tower is lovely and lovely built, John :) . It adds a lot to the model! I see some differences (painting/model) on the other tower. Is it still to be completed or is it a consequence of your desire to fit a particular base shape?

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Tuesday, December 9th 2008, 6:56pm

Modifications

Merry Christmas Ricardo.

Yes, this model was modified to fit the top of the china cabinet seen in the first photo. Earlier in the thread, I detailed the cross section cut. In the second photo you can see the keep roof (stone grey) sitting on the base of the model. Notice on it, two white rectangles. They are the future locations of the slated roofs.

Now notice how the back half of this roof extends out over the green pieces of paper? Those green pieces are representing the footprint of the top of the china cabinet. That's where the tower was reduced in depth to only only one roof section - not two. Follow?

Edit: Ah, now I see the tower at the back in the painting. Yes, that's a stair tower that will not be built.

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Tuesday, December 9th 2008, 8:15pm

Hello jcvandenbergh,

Thank you for your supplementary information on the regions of 'The Netherlands'.

The new angles of the front wall of the courtyard require that modifications be made to the printed parts. I think the three walls (photo 1) can all be made out of one piece of original wall. (photo 2)

A pattern was made for the right end (photo 3) of the wall abutting the building at the right. (photos 4 - 6)
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Tuesday, December 9th 2008, 8:21pm

Now that white pattern is placed on the original part. (photo 7)

The result is seen in photos 8 and 9 and the trial fit in photo 10.

The left end of the original wall will require another pattern.
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Tuesday, December 9th 2008, 9:49pm

The Courtyard Wall

This section of the courtyard wall ends at a pier that juts out. This extended brick formation will be the foundation for the main courtyard entrance.
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Tuesday, December 9th 2008, 11:12pm

RE: Kasteel Nijenrode/Breukelen 1:100

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...... answered this question more or less ....


Thank you for your judgement, more less than more, :totlach:

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Wednesday, December 10th 2008, 11:02am

The courtyard Walls

The patterns really made the cutting out of this wall section quite easy.

There are not tabs on these courtyard walls. You will note that the edge of the wall was first reinforced and closed with filler strips. The printed walls were then glued to the face of the strips. Now on the printed parts there were tabs at the bottom of the wall, but with a filler strip in place, they had to be cut off.

The tops of the walls were filled with card sandwiched up to the correct thickness. In the first photo, you can see one section of wall being closed at the back. Again, the tabs were cut off the original wall.

Closing the perimeter of the courtyard with these low walls gives the castle a nice feeling of enclosure. I think anglling the courtyard across the front to accommodate the cabinet has actually framed the castle for frontal viewing. More on that later.
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Wednesday, December 10th 2008, 11:22am

RE: The courtyard Walls

Here is another view over the roof. We are looking at the next construction site - the entrance to the courtyard.

This will be a very noticeable feature of the castle. Hajo provided the following link to pictures of the castle: http://www.kastelenbeeldbank.nl/Utrecht/…kelen/index.htm
If you would like to see a really good photograph of this entrance, scroll down to the tenth picture taken by Luchtfoto 1970 (KLM Aerocarto)
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Thursday, December 11th 2008, 2:45pm

Templates and Patterns

I want to share a technique that I have been using now to make templates. In other threads, I have detailed an earlier method of fastening tracing paper over parts with clear tape, and tracing them. Then that pattern is taped over card stock and both the pattern and the card are cut together.

I recently bought a printer that has printer/fax/copier capabilities. It is now a snap to simply put the part on the platen of the machine and copy it in black and white. The colour is not needed.

The copy is glued over card stock and voilà - a perfect template.

I bring this up here, because the courtyard entrance has jogs in it at the corners. These are tricky to construct and get a nice right angle on the inside corners.

The chapel of Pierrefonds is given as an example of how a template helps keep everything under control. Ricardo and I have waxed poetic over the use of templates in the past. As a matter of fact, Ricardo has added examples in my threads. Any recent examples of holding complex building assemblies in place with templates Ricardo?

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Thursday, December 11th 2008, 3:06pm

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Any recent examples of holding complex building assemblies in place with templates Ricardo?

Yes, of course, John :) The surrounding walls in the Astorga palace are just an example. I used another method, arguably more ecological ;), of copying the printed parts to card. It involves cutting the part first - and leaving a hole in the kit's paper sheet. Then, I put the sheet over the card and copy the shape through the hole, with a pencil. The template drawn on the card comes up a bit slimmer than the hole, because the pencil thickness is not zero. If you are following me, you surely have already come to the conclusion that it is nice to use thin (0,3mm) carbon leads / mines because half of that is close to average paper thickness. With no extra work at all, the template already comes with paper thickness correction in place! There are cases where templates should be fatter than the parts. In that case, instead of copying the hole, I copy the part itself :)

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Thursday, December 11th 2008, 4:10pm

RE: Templates and Patterns

Hello Ricardo,
Thank you for expanding the topic with another method. I think I was fishing for a photo from you, but got something better in return!

I guess you could say I use a positive approach where you use a negative one...hmmmmm.... that won't sound so good to the reader, but you know what I mean. (positive/negative, field/ground)

If I've got it correctly, one method is to cut an applied pattern of the part out of the card directly and the other one is to trace around the part's hole (negative space) to create a positive pattern.

I used to have a darkroom Ricardo. A negative produces a positive as it were.

You do save the trees with your method Ricardo...

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Thursday, December 11th 2008, 5:32pm

That is an excellent technique, but you do need to be careful that the copy is 100% of the size of the original. Most machines let you adjust. I have to use 104% to get the same size as the original.
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Thursday, December 11th 2008, 5:55pm

A Good Machine

Hi Fred,
Well, I bought a good machine that prints 100% when asked...

Fred, I couldn't resist. I know you would not be offended.

We've interacted enough for me to know you have a good sense of humour.

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Friday, December 12th 2008, 2:22pm

You can be sure that I took your humour on the positive side, John :totlach:
The point about scanner and printer quality is interesting. 100% is the objective, of course, and we can cut inside or outside the line to make up for paper thickness. Having the possibility to scale up or down may look useful to make up for paper thickness but, with the exception of a few simple shapes (circles, squares and so on) it is not. That is because scaling and offsetting is not equivalent…

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Friday, December 12th 2008, 3:54pm

I thought I had a good one too, but I've learned to adjust :D -HP owner :D
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