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Petersdom in Rom

  • Ricleite
  • October 6, 2008 at 3:02 PM
  • Ricleite
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    • November 4, 2008 at 3:12 PM
    • #41

    John, you embarrass me :rotwerd: :rotwerd: :rotwerd: Thanks a lot :)
    Having two or more similar assemblies allows me to show the 'before' and 'after' in the same picture. With this model, there are some cases where it is possible to show the 'while' as well. That will come latter on ;)
    You can notice on today's pictures that I invested on a proper wooden base for this model. It is so big that it is not wise to rely only on a card base. The main building / square junction would be a very weak point...

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  • John
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    • November 4, 2008 at 3:54 PM
    • #42

    Ricardo, you make it impossible to not continue with the positive comments. This base is beautifully thought out. It conforms to the contour of the model and adds interest.

    As a woodworker, I must comment on the edge of the wood and the finish. Lovely soft rolled edge and a beautiful smooth, satin finish. Discrete colouring as well.

    There now, I've said enough.

    Outstanding project Ricardo.

    John

    Edited once, last by John (November 4, 2008 at 3:55 PM).

  • Xeno06
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    • November 4, 2008 at 6:02 PM
    • #43

    Hi Ricardo,

    As also other readers wrote befor: you're showing great pictures of this outstanding work! This very clean build has to be the result of your great thecnic! =D> =D> =D>

    There is a massive difference of quality (of course to the positive area) between your Petersdom and ours. But one thing seems to be the same: the weekness between the two "parts" of the ground. Also cause of problems with the place, we had cut it into two. But as we glue it together at the end it hadn't more stability (it was even more week than befor) as you certainly can imagine...! ?(
    The option with the wodden base is much more elegant for sure! :super:

    Now, good work for the cupple (?) (the top) and I'm waiting for the cutting out of the holy statues ;)

    Gianluca

    Mal ist man die Statue.. X(
    ... und mal die Taube :P

  • Ricleite
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    • November 5, 2008 at 2:54 PM
    • #44

    @ John and Gianluca - I'm glad you liked the wooden base :) I tried several different shapes on a paper mould. The fore and aft sections are pretty obvious but it was not the case in middle section. Anyway, I'm quite happy with the result.
    The best place to split the model in two should be the square - the columns with roof on one part and the remaining on the other. It would be easier to hide the joint...
    Regarding the statues, well, they will come soon ;)
    Today, I show the pinnacle. It has no less than 40 parts, plus a couple of reinforcements. Pretty fun to build :)

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  • Ricleite
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    • November 6, 2008 at 2:46 PM
    • #45

    The statues take up a good deal of time to cut. Shown here are the big ones...

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  • Xeno06
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    • November 6, 2008 at 6:15 PM
    • #46

    Hi Ricardo,

    only want to say: wish you lot of endurance for this job! hold on with that quality! stay 8)

    ;) Gianluca

    Mal ist man die Statue.. X(
    ... und mal die Taube :P

  • Ricleite
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    • November 7, 2008 at 5:50 PM
    • #47

    Xeno06 - I'm no longer that far away from the end ;)
    The model has 6 interesting assemblies that will be placed on holes in the roof. The first picture shows the various assembly stages.

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  • Yu Gyokubun
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    • November 8, 2008 at 11:11 AM
    • #48

    Hi Ricardo,

    Your build is very fast.
    I'm very happy to see your beautiful work but at the same time am anxious about your job. I wonder you have time to go to office...

    Yu the worrier

  • modellschiff
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    • November 8, 2008 at 2:00 PM
    • #49

    Hi Ricardo,
    this will surely become a very impressive model and beautiful to look at.


    With the best regards

    modellschiff

                                                                                   Artikel 1 GG:

    Die Würde des Menschen ist unantastbar.

    Sie zu achten und zu schützen ist Verpflichtung aller staatlichen Gewalt


  • Ricleite
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    • November 10, 2008 at 3:12 PM
    • #50

    @ Yu - my apparent building speed is not completely honest, Yu :rotwerd: I got a healthy stock of pictures during the holydays... ;)
    @ modellschiff - I hope so, too :)

    The base of the towers gave me a lot of trouble, as you can check by the ugly scars on the first picture. In my view, those parts are not properly drawn :(

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  • Ernst
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    • November 10, 2008 at 6:33 PM
    • #51

    Hello Ricardo,

    only :super: :respekt: :super: :respekt:

    Greetings
    Ernst

  • Xeno06
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    • November 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM
    • #52

    Hey Ricardo,

    Now I suppose too that these bases aren't drawn properly. We aslo had some truble with them, but had thought it was our mistake. That you - with your very clean maner of working - also aren't happy with them is a little reassuring for us...

    Gianluca

    Mal ist man die Statue.. X(
    ... und mal die Taube :P

  • Ricleite
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    • November 11, 2008 at 2:56 PM
    • #53

    @ Ernst - :) :) :)
    @ Gianluca - You can be sure that the parts are not drawn properly ;). All 12 slices of each part have vertical axis and this means that the base and top shapes should be similar. In this case, the base is oval and the top is something like a circle. The slices are drawn with different lengths, which is correct. The two big (along the oval bigger axis) and small slices have vertical axis, which is OK, but the intermediate ones should be sloped in the direction of the smaller slices. If you draw a plan view of the desired solid (the oval base, the circular top and the slice edges) the need for sloped intermediate slices becomes clear. As it is not the case in this model, the intermediate slices have to be twisted, which is awkward and not very pretty. Fortunately, they are almost hidden :rolleyes:

    Well, moving one with some more pictures...

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  • John
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    • November 11, 2008 at 9:15 PM
    • #54

    Beautiful work Ricardo - just beautiful.

    So nice to see this masterpiece developing.

    John

  • Ricleite
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    • November 12, 2008 at 2:50 PM
    • #55

    Thanks, John and Norman :)

    Well, it is time to empty Yu's favorite bowl ;)

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  • Jens
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    • November 12, 2008 at 3:05 PM
    • #56

    Whoaaah!
    All these columns and statues! This is a lifetime's work!...
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    ...thinking over the idea to build this in the near future...

    Best regards from
    [Blocked Image: http://www.pielawa.de/bilder/jenssign.gif]

    Um ein tadelloses Mitglied einer Schafherde sein zu können, muss man vor allem ein Schaf sein. — Albert Einstein

  • Ricleite
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    • November 13, 2008 at 2:51 PM
    • #57

    Almost, Jens, almost ;)
    Gluing the columns is pretty easy. Keeping them vertical is another matter. I glued each 4 together and that helps. Hopefully, the method is visible on the pictures.

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  • Yu Gyokubun
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    • November 14, 2008 at 12:10 PM
    • #58

    Hi Ricardo,

    My favorite bowl is gone then my favorite dominoes show up.
    Sorry, couldn't resist... :rotwerd:

    Yu

  • Ricleite
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    • November 14, 2008 at 3:34 PM
    • #59

    Good one, Yu :D But, now, it is no longer easy to bring them down :D

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  • Xeno06
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    • November 16, 2008 at 5:47 PM
    • #60

    Looks great Ricardo! =D> =D>

    But where is the detail-photo of every statue? ;) Please give me a picture of a sculpture without an arm or a lost head or...
    Ou no, that's you; and you probably hadn't made a wrong cut! Or did you? ;)

    This way or the other, I highly admire your work! :super:

    Gianluca

    Mal ist man die Statue.. X(
    ... und mal die Taube :P

  • britanis
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    • November 16, 2008 at 7:15 PM
    • #61

    great ricardo :prost:

    respect!!!!!!!!! :yahoo:

    it is the first time that i look by buildings @)..............
    but........... =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

  • Ricleite
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    • November 17, 2008 at 3:02 PM
    • #62

    @ Xeno06 - well, a lost head, surely not :D; a slimmer arm, maybe, but the statues are so small that I am not sure ;). Frankly, I had no nasty surprises while cutting all those 140 statues...
    The last assembly is the dome. I mean, the last for me because (as usual :rotwerd: ) I didn't quite follow the proposed construction sequence. The original had only 18 parts - the 2 main ones, with 8 slices each and the exterior, painted tabs. I added a lot of parts to make the assembly stronger, as you can see in the pictures.

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  • Xeno06
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    • November 17, 2008 at 10:06 PM
    • #63

    Good idea with the extra parts.

    But the burning question: does it fit in the hole? Let me guess, perfect?! ;)

    waiting for the "finish-pictures",

    Gianluca

    Mal ist man die Statue.. X(
    ... und mal die Taube :P

  • Ricleite
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    • November 18, 2008 at 2:47 PM
    • #64

    Thanks again for your comments :)
    @ Gianluca - I guess that the joint is good because it went unnoticed on yesterdays last picture ;). The assembly includes a section that will be glued to the base and the moveable dome. More seriously, the hole was a bit too large. The exterior tabs on the dome have triple thickness and they are enough to avoid the dome falling inside the hole. I covered the slits between the exterior tabs with suitably painted, triple thickness, paper. They are almost impossible to spot on the pictures :D

    Well, it is finished. Lets start with detail pictures :)

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  • Ricleite
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    • November 18, 2008 at 2:48 PM
    • #65

    Some more details...

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  • Ricleite
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    • November 18, 2008 at 2:50 PM
    • #66

    Some general views...

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  • Ricleite
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    • November 18, 2008 at 2:54 PM
    • #67

    ...and the last ones. Apart from few and minor glitches, this is an excellent model. I really praise Schreiber for publishing such fine kits. Bring me more, please :)

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  • John
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    • November 18, 2008 at 4:24 PM
    • #68

    I'm sure the Schreiber publishers would be very pleased to commercially use your assembled model of this published work. You have the three Instant Durable cathedrals of France used on their introductory website page. Schreiber would be wise to contact you Ricardo.

    This is perhaps the finest rendering of this model that will be made.

    Congratulations,
    John

  • günter
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    • November 18, 2008 at 9:34 PM
    • #69

    Hello Ricardo!
    Wow! Less than two month and the job is done! I would have taken two years!
    I followed your report nearly every day. It has been quite interesting to compare between my "simplified" version and your masterpiece. But mine (1:700) has the advantage to fit on the cupboard in the staircase!

    Günter

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Gruß

    Günter

  • Ernst
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    • November 18, 2008 at 9:38 PM
    • #70

    Hello Ricardo,

    graet Building and beautiful Pictures.

    only this :super: :super: :super: :respekt: :respekt:

    greetings from Munich
    Ernst

  • Xeno06
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    • November 18, 2008 at 11:00 PM
    • #71

    Hey Ricardo,

    I think the dome is a little bit deep in the hole... isn't that the truth?

    No, of course I'm joking ;)

    I wrote all the time about your great technic and so on... So this time I could write something I didn't mind until now: nice pictures!!! =D> =D> =D>
    And: Congratiulations for the finish in that maner and time.

    Gianluca

    Further: It's also my opinion that Schreiber could give us more archithecture models like this one!

    Mal ist man die Statue.. X(
    ... und mal die Taube :P

  • froberger
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    • November 19, 2008 at 7:53 AM
    • #72

    Ricardo:

    Wow! Incredible work. It looks beautiful. I've been amazed at how fast you were able to do all that repetitive work. Your precision, as always, is marvelous. Maestro.

    Thanks

    David

    Froberger

  • Ricleite
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    • November 20, 2008 at 10:14 AM
    • #73

    Many, many, many thanks for your very kind comments :) :) :)
    @ John - well, it is a little pleasure to have a picture on ID site :rotwerd: Perhaps it would be wise for me to drop Schreiber a line, or a picture ;)
    @ günter - you said it : 1/700 takes less space than 1/400 :D But I wouldn't blame Schreiber for that ;)
    @ Ernst - greetings from Póvoa de Varzim :) :) :)
    @ Norm - muitíssimo obrigado :D
    @ Gianluca - Schreiber's graphic quality on their latest models continues to be tip-top. A good example is the Tower Bridge. I have it waiting, among others :rotwerd:. The not so good news is that all those models have a relatively small number of parts for my taste. I hope there is something more ambitious on their pipeline :rolleyes:
    @ froberger - The repetitive work usually has a big advantage: it is easy. The trick is to switch on the hands autopilot :D

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