Palais des Papes, Avignon [FERTIG]

  • Model: The Papal Palace, Avignon
    Publisher: L'Instant Durable
    Copyright Date: 1991
    Designer: Jean-Tristan Roquebert
    Colour: Gérad Gros


    This construction report will differ from the fine report written by Friedulin from August 20, 2008 to February 2, 2009 detailing the model's construction.


    The focus of this abbreviated report is to show the completed elements of the palace coming together as they were historically built. There is no need to show construction details. Friedulin,has taken us through the construction of the various parts of this amazing structure.

    Edited 2 times, last by John ().

  • This is goodness. We all missed you, John, and it will be very interesting to see how you pull the palace together.

    best regards
    mit herzlichen grussen


    Fred


    In Build:
    Panzerkreuzer Infanta Maria Teresa

  • Thanks Fred. I hope I do not disappoint.


    This model has taught me a great deal about the seat of the papacy in France. Because the government of Italy was very unstable when the archbishop of Bordeaux was elected pope in 1305, he decided to stay in France. So began the reign of nine French popes who succeeded each other. The feudal town of Avignon was chosen as their seat.


    It was the third pope, Benedict XII who began the construction of palace as we know it today. He demolished the previous episcopal palace used by his predecessors and built the north half of the palace. He became known as one of the two 'builder popes' to reside at Avignon.

  • The pontiff Benedict XII built a structure that resembled a fortified monastery. Influences of the heavy, Romanesque style of architecture are clearly evident. An austere, fortress mentality prevails.


    Now to the model.


    The designer numbered his parts starting at the low, south facade of the palace. However, Benedict XII built the north half of the palais, so that is where we will begin.


    Here is the first photo showing the beginnings of the Palais Vieux. You see a massive tower anchoring the northeast corner, the gardens and the chapel of Benedict XII and a crenellated tower. You can tell by the look of that tower, that peace prevails. It is not a fighting platform. We see a more civilized penthouse sitting on top. It's interesting that the custom of maintaining an east/west orientation for cathedrals is employed here.

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    Original von John
    ... Because the government of Italy was very unstable when the archbishop of Bordeaux was elected pope in 1305, he decided to stay in France. ...


    Well,
    I think it was a very good decision specially for the wine-fans, too... ;)

    Fertig: MS WILHELM GUSTLOFF, 1:250



    Aufwachen - es ist 5 vor 33...

  • I am finding that a lot of reinforcement is necessary with many of the walls. There is a tendency for them to twist or rack. I think the large arcade openings with glued backing parts have something to do with this. A lot of stresses can build up if parts are not glued up properly. Efforts to force things into line just cause problems.


    The real test of the pudding is when the assembled sections of the palace come together. It's not just a case of butting one assembly up against another and gluing them into place; many of their parts are intertwined with each other.


    This is a challenging model to assemble. A good challenge made quite manageable because of the accurate design of the model.

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    Original von John
    ... Because the government of Italy was very unstable when the archbishop of Bordeaux was elected pope in 1305, he decided to stay in France. ...


    John,


    No doubt, as usual a very beautiful report.


    ...but I think Italy had never a stable government till today. ;)


    René

    ....es ist 5 vor 33

    Demokratie ist alternativlos!

    "sei a Mensch"

  • Thanks René.
    Helmut, a nice bordeaux wine might just be a very appropriate way to finish off this thread. I see that Friedulin celebrated with beer.


    The buildings of the Palais Vieux surround the cloister of Benedict XII. It can be seen here ready for installation. I have no idea why there is a line extending outward from the edge of the staircase across a portion of the courtyard. Friedulin?

  • Hi John,


    From the first few pictures I got the impression this is a large model.


    Your mention of twisting walls is another indication and now is the first time I see both your hands in a picture (camera on a smal tripod and a timed exposure?).


    Must be a large model indeed. Footprint?


    Cheers,


    Bruno

    Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations

    Edited 2 times, last by erasmus ().

  • Good Morning Bruno.


    You nailed it. Tripod and timed exposure. When I'm holding an object, I like to crank up the ISO speed and give myself 10 seconds.


    The model is scaled at 1/300. The stated base size is 48 x 43 cm.


    Cheers...John

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    Original von John
    ...Helmut, a nice bordeaux wine might just be a very appropriate way to finish off this thread. ...


    John, I was thinking of "Châteauneuf-du-Pape". =)


    Today the castle there is an impressive ruin. I'm sure you know that "Châteauneuf-du-Pape" at that time was the summer-residence of the "french" popes.


    Your report is very interesting, as always! :]

    Fertig: MS WILHELM GUSTLOFF, 1:250



    Aufwachen - es ist 5 vor 33...

  • This third shot of the cloister is being featured by itself. I would like to mention the white tab paddle hanging down from the red tile roof on the open side of the cloister.


    Here's a tip that might prove useful to anyone trying to get their fingers up under a sloping roof edge that depends on a tab to fasten it to a wall. It's hard to get your fingers into a space that is progressively narrowing to a thin edge so far up under that you can't reach it with your fingers. Solution? Glue a paddle under the tab that will extend down far enough so that you can get your fingers behind it to apply pressure to the tab.


    I wouldn't use this method often. The optimum method would be to build a shelf on the receiving wall and cut the tab off entirely. Then the roof could be gently glued down onto the shelf. It's much easier working from above than trying to get your fingers up inside the model from below.


    You can also damage the model in attempting to prop it on a table or cradle it in your lap so that you can gain access to that elusive tab. Has anyone experienced this? I'm sure I'm not the only one.


    John

  • Hello Hagen,


    Good to hear from you. Hope you find the build interesting. I apologize for not getting into the shipping area to view your fine work. Something to be corrected.


    About Avignon. You wouldn't happen to have a digital shot of the digs would you...?


    Cheers...John

  • hello john!


    nice to see you again - at work :) with a very fine instant durable model. this will be another masterpiece!!!


    good luck
    waltair

    die Zukunft geschieht, egal was man tut

  • Good Morning Friedulin.


    Thank you so much for your kind words. However, it was your fine construction report that revealed the intricacies of this wonderful model.


    The buildings of Benedict XII are complete. You can see from this photograph that the structure is complete unto itself. It would have served Benedict XII well as a papal seat in France.


    However, things were going to change. There were two builder popes residing in Avignon.

  • Hello John,
    I agree when you say this is a challenging model. The problem is not on the sub-assemblies but rather on putting everything together. Sometimes, the 'inside' looks a bit bigger than the 'outside' on ID kits. Your outside - in approach to this large section may well be the best one!

  • Thanks Ricardo.


    Clement VI, elected in 1342, was the second builder pope. Anxious to extend and embellish his residence, he acquired the houses to the south of the Palais Vieux. They were razed to make way for his expansion.


    Although the exterior facades maintained the look of military fortifications,he used a lighter hand with the design of interior spaces.


    He built his own chapel, which we seen in this photo. It was significantly larger than the chapel of Benedict XII.

  • Hello John, another outstanding report!


    I love such historical informations about the originals; they also belong to the model, certainly!

    Fertig: MS WILHELM GUSTLOFF, 1:250



    Aufwachen - es ist 5 vor 33...

  • John,


    This looks like the type of tunnel that the roadrunner paints on a rockface to fool the coyote - twice.
    The first time the coyote runs into the rockface and the second time he is run over by a train leaving the very same tunnel ;).


    Cheers,


    Bruno

    Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations

    Edited once, last by erasmus ().

  • Wiley E. Coyote never stood a chance with that bird Bruno. Loved those cartoons.


    I googled Wiley on the Internet and found all kinds of cartoon clips...


    Cheers...John

  • Before I glue the two sections of the palace together, I thought it would be a good idea to label the sections. Once the palace is joined, the two parts will blend together and be united with ground cover. The time to dramatize the uniqueness of the two sections is now.


    I labelled Wiley's tunnel for you Bruno.

  • Hi John,


    Thanks, I appreciate you returning the favour (you do know you star in the model I am currently building, don't you? ;)).


    I now see that the tunnel is actually a 3-D part.
    I assumed the tunnel floor to be level. In that case the point - and lines of view would be "off".
    I recognized it as a "trompe l'oeil" (not unlike the road sloping up the hill in your Quebec model).
    In this case I saw an image of a tunnel on a flat surface: Wiley's tunnel.


    That means I have not done you right. You did put effort into building a 3-D part here. The tunnel floor must be at an incline and then all pieces of the puzzle fall into place.


    This model is going to be another gem. Success with the "docking procedure".


    Cheers,


    Bruno

    Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations

  • Hi John,


    Beside everything else the quality of your pictures is superb! It really makes a difference when watching a report. Not to mention your almost academic approach of pointing out certain interesting aspects and features. Many thanks for another pleasurable read!


    Cheers .... Wolfgang

  • A grassy piece of turf runs along the east side of the palace between two stone walls. A dirt path wanders along this area from a doorway in the south wall.


    I knew that this ground would be difficult to fit so I custom tailored the existing parts. To do this, I made a built-up template with little pieces of card that fit into all the 'ins and outs' along the east wall. Then this pattern was taped down onto the original printed parts.


    In this picture you can see the tape and the knife about to cut away parts of the original piece below. It's a bit of a leap of faith here, because you are cutting off the tabs and in some areas a good bit of the printed material...

  • ... but all is not lost. Cutting off printed material is fine, and adding new material isn't a problem if one anticipates this in advance.


    I photocopied the grass and a wall section previously just in case I might have to add material to the custom parts. I print extra parts now on light paper instead of card. It is easier to add as 'skin' when grafting it onto a stiffer foundation. Its thickness is not as noticeable if overlapping occurs.

  • Here is a close-up of a polygonal entrance and wall jutting out on the east side. Notice the artwork here. This is the fine work of Gérald Gros. You see cobblestones at the doorway gradually fading to a dirt path. You can see the brushstrokes creating the wisps of weed and grass. There is light and shadow here.


    Perhaps the days of hand created work are gone in the field of card models. Pity.


    This model was created in 1991.

  • John, I think we will eventually see such quality work done digitally. It is certainly a pleasure to see that artistry in the older models, and a good reason to build them. :D

    best regards
    mit herzlichen grussen


    Fred


    In Build:
    Panzerkreuzer Infanta Maria Teresa

  • You may be right Fred. However, there seems to be a move toward more photo realism with digital work. I fully embrace the future, but as you say, appreciate the human touch with earlier works.


    A close friend of mine, many years ago, told me that with restored cars, the hand painted detail work, although imperfect holds a much higher value. I guess the connoisseur is looking for the 'natural' look of hand drawn detail lines.


    Now our attention turns to the northwest corner of the palace. There is a vertical drop of nine meters from the gardens to the level of the lower walkway and a twenty-one meter elevation drop to ground level out at the southeast corner of the palace.


    P.S. Bruno, I don't understand your reference to me in your next model?


    John