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Thursday, September 11th 2008, 2:13pm

Hi builders,
as I mentioned before...the next assy is the fuel tank. One might suspect some additional features here as well. Sure thing.

Those distinctive stiffeners around the barrel are such amazing features, I couldn't resist to skip them.
I did the grooves in two steps. First a shallow one was formed. Then I realized I did not have enough paper thickness, so I had to apply doublers on the inside surface. That allowed me to further increase the depth of the grooves. Sanding, primer, sanding again. The last photo shows the top groove almost in its final stage. I think it can be further smoothed to achieve maximum effect. I'll see what else can be done over there.

So here we go.

Enjoy them, stayed tuned

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Friday, September 12th 2008, 12:06pm

Hi there again,
left hand fuel tank stiffeners formed at last. It really wasn't an easy task, but I think it definitely did worth the effort. I built both fuel tanks simultaneously. One step on the left tank, then immediately do the same on the right one. So I'll get back to the right hand fuel tank right now.

For later. Items I think I'm gonna feature:
mud
leaves
grass
dent(s)
leaks and drips
waterline (trace of it)
stenciled marking(s)

hardware:
drain valve
cotter pins (2x)
a chain (saw them on photos, purpose unknown)
cap
jam nuts
bonding jumper(s)
fuel lines
fuel quantity transmitter

I might change my mind though, so please no high expectations.

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Friday, September 12th 2008, 12:24pm

Modellschiff, Frederick and of course the rest of the guys...Thanx for the nice words. Feels really good. Also appreciate the non-English speakers leaving comments in English every now and then. Negative comments and corrections are welcome as well. I might learn something.

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Sunday, September 14th 2008, 4:52pm

Hi everybody,
a little progress with the attaching hardware of the fuel tank.

take care, don't run with scissors.
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Sunday, September 14th 2008, 5:34pm

Sorry guys,
it was just one of those days...the production didn't go well at all, so I stopped before things get out of hand. Of course I'll continue tomorrow. So stay tuned.

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Thursday, September 18th 2008, 11:04pm

Hi there again,
finished with more parts of the fuel tanks. At the moment I'm busy with designing the fuel quantity transmitter. Drain valves and right side regulator valve still to be done.

A little photo update on the fuel tanks...
just after primer application.

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Thursday, September 18th 2008, 11:25pm

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A little photo update on the fuel tanks...
just after primer application.
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Dear Delcom,

I enjoy each and every picture not only them of the fuel tanks.

Good idea to build twin parts simultaneously.

Are you now more confident about the real scale ?

Your report is on my watch list.

=D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

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Friday, September 19th 2008, 12:54am

Gees... a piece of paper can be so much! I am impressed again and again in this amazing forum.
Modellbaubogen on my das bücherregal
1. GPM 1:25 T-55A
2. GPM 1:25 Sd.Kfz.250/3 GREIF
3. Halinski 1:25 T-34/76
4. Kartonowy Arsenal 1:25 Sd.Kfz.7 8 ton Semi Track
5. Military Model 1:25 Flak 36/37
6. Maly Modelarz 1:25 MK. VIII Cromwell
7. Renova 1:25 KRAZ 255B 6x6
8. Maly Modelarz 1:25 T-72 ---- im bau

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Monday, September 22nd 2008, 12:54am

Howdy guys,
the fruit of the weekend. Hopefully tomorrow I can start with the paint job. Really looking forward to get some mud on these fuel tanks. I think I'm gonna go with the coffee trick again.

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Monday, September 22nd 2008, 8:31am

Hi delcom, coffee is good!!! :D And your fuel tanks look awesome! @)
Danke und Gruss
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Monday, September 22nd 2008, 2:42pm

Sorry, gotta run to work right now...took loads of photographs during the painting process...so if you would like to see a step-by-step kinda report, just drop a line.

This is what I've done this morning,
hope the "mud experts" will like it as well.

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Thursday, September 25th 2008, 1:45am

From this extremely muddy fuel tank, this Kraz has likely experienced a hell of offroad job. Good work! By the way, now I know I can get some coffee residue from Starbuck for the purpose other than plantation.
Modellbaubogen on my das bücherregal
1. GPM 1:25 T-55A
2. GPM 1:25 Sd.Kfz.250/3 GREIF
3. Halinski 1:25 T-34/76
4. Kartonowy Arsenal 1:25 Sd.Kfz.7 8 ton Semi Track
5. Military Model 1:25 Flak 36/37
6. Maly Modelarz 1:25 MK. VIII Cromwell
7. Renova 1:25 KRAZ 255B 6x6
8. Maly Modelarz 1:25 T-72 ---- im bau

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Thursday, September 25th 2008, 9:19am

Hi fello,
yeah coffee is good, however I also wanted to have some grass and plant remains included in the mud. I made a mixture of spices to achieve this texture. Don't ask what spices exactly I used...have no clue. Anything that had little grains, sticks or leaves were incorporated in my recipe. First I actually tried onion skin, but did not really match the scale.

The funny thing is...it is a really smelly fuel tank. Smells like chicken soup, lol.

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Thursday, September 25th 2008, 9:43am

Real world Kraz 255 L/H fuel tank during off road fun session. It is one of the photographs I used as reference.

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Saturday, September 27th 2008, 3:01pm

Xander,
these images I made are for you. Nothing special though. Note the highlighted edges, so nothing looks flat anymore. I mean that was my plan. I did the highlight with dry brush. Not sure if I picked the right color for the task...anyway it will stay like this.
For the rest, at the moment I'm busy with the brackets that attach the fuel tank to the truck itself. Previous photos show some of my early designs of those arms. There are at least four different configurations concerning tank attaching hardware on the real deal. I go with the simple arm and clamp variant.

INFO: For those who really follow my progress (thx Rene Pinos). My next assy will be the winch. So get prepared.

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Sunday, September 28th 2008, 3:47pm

Thanks to Delcom's show and talk. Now the 17th Typhoon is whistling outside here at Taiwan. But the heavy moisture content in the air is definitely not good to paper work. So I am gonna sit tight and keep eyes on your work. I guess the overall weathering project for this Kraz is becoming a great task cause flying mud and debris on the road won't show any discrimination. 8)

By the way again, I have placed order on GPM for this 1:25 Renova Kraz. Hope I can get it sometime next week.

About grooves, I do not have menu at hand (probably that does not make any difference cause I can not read Polish) so my question for now is the way you have so far invented (adding extra paper inside to increase the thickness of fuel tank ) is a standard way to do so? From GPM 1:25 T-55A (like those oil or fuel containers mounted on the mud fender), the similar effect was simply carried out by sticking 2 layers.
Modellbaubogen on my das bücherregal
1. GPM 1:25 T-55A
2. GPM 1:25 Sd.Kfz.250/3 GREIF
3. Halinski 1:25 T-34/76
4. Kartonowy Arsenal 1:25 Sd.Kfz.7 8 ton Semi Track
5. Military Model 1:25 Flak 36/37
6. Maly Modelarz 1:25 MK. VIII Cromwell
7. Renova 1:25 KRAZ 255B 6x6
8. Maly Modelarz 1:25 T-72 ---- im bau

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Monday, September 29th 2008, 4:42pm

Hi Fello,
if that's the official way to do? I wouldn't know. Probably. The original model design is more simple, hence no groove. Applying a doubler inside the wessel was the only way I could pull the job off.

I'm really happy to hear that you are about to start your own Kraz project. Wow...I AM LOOKING FORWARD. One thing you MUST remember when assembling the truck frame: DO NOT USE WATER BASED GLUE. If you do so, do not be surprised next morning finding those two long beams totally curved and wrapped. For the rest of the truck the water based glue is no harm (at least for me...so far).

So please, keep us updated at all costs. Personally, I'm interested.
Are you planin' to paint her? Are you gonna modify things?

Don't run with scissors.
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Thursday, October 2nd 2008, 7:37pm

Hi,
just a little preview on the winch...this assy will undergo a serious modification. I hope it will turn out just fine.

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just a little preview on the winch...this assy will undergo a serious modification. I hope it will turn out just fine.

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You hope, but I'am sure.... :yahoo:

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Friday, October 3rd 2008, 8:08am

Dear Delcom,

I do appreciate the suggestion.. No one told me that before. You really save me out of disaster. Thanks once again.

Please do not laugh at me. From my childhood experience, using water-based glue on paper things is one of the golden rules. Something like UHU stic is considered water-based? Or can I use adhesive of plastic model building on paper?

I am still waiting for the package from Poland.
Modellbaubogen on my das bücherregal
1. GPM 1:25 T-55A
2. GPM 1:25 Sd.Kfz.250/3 GREIF
3. Halinski 1:25 T-34/76
4. Kartonowy Arsenal 1:25 Sd.Kfz.7 8 ton Semi Track
5. Military Model 1:25 Flak 36/37
6. Maly Modelarz 1:25 MK. VIII Cromwell
7. Renova 1:25 KRAZ 255B 6x6
8. Maly Modelarz 1:25 T-72 ---- im bau

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Friday, October 3rd 2008, 4:53pm

Hi Fello,
unfortunately I cannot comment on this issue, I'm afraid you'll have to ask the experienced builders. Cannot even remember what brand of glue I used for the truck frame. My first try was...as you suspected (disastrous) with water based glue. The frame was in a jig, and still turned out tangled and kept bending even further after days. So I had to manufacture a new one. I decided not to use water based glue for long and/or thin beam like parts, especially when it's doubled.
I hope you'll soon find someone who can answer your question.

Let us know, when you have your truck delivered, please.

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Saturday, October 4th 2008, 3:57pm

Thank you very much, Delcom..

I am still waiting for this lovely package from Europe. I just can't wait to see what Kraz looks like before you gentemen placing magic work on the paper.

About glue stuff, from internet research, seemingly a specific chemical (hcyanoacrylate) has better to be found in the contents. From somel large build like battle ship with long hull and frame, keeping backbone as straight as possible is as important as H frame to those heavy duty trucks like Kraz and M35 truck behind me in my photo. :D However, some gentlemen in this forum using some gears to freeze the frame for better straightness after assembling work. Anyway, working on paper model is really different from plastic model ( I am considering selling those plastic models piled up above my workbench ).

About painting this Kraz or not, from my very limited experience on kartonwe, the glassy surface of Flak 36/37 (military model) did disappoint me when I receive the book. I will see what I can do to this Kraz. hoho....
Modellbaubogen on my das bücherregal
1. GPM 1:25 T-55A
2. GPM 1:25 Sd.Kfz.250/3 GREIF
3. Halinski 1:25 T-34/76
4. Kartonowy Arsenal 1:25 Sd.Kfz.7 8 ton Semi Track
5. Military Model 1:25 Flak 36/37
6. Maly Modelarz 1:25 MK. VIII Cromwell
7. Renova 1:25 KRAZ 255B 6x6
8. Maly Modelarz 1:25 T-72 ---- im bau

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Tuesday, October 7th 2008, 11:17am

Good day,
I couldn't proceed with the winch during the past few days since I didn't have any detail photographs of the gearbox itself. Then accidentally came across four images on the web focusing on the area in concern.
Again...I decided to make some Mickey Mouse drafts for myself just to get an overall view of the shape of these components.

Do I see it right, guys? Anyone out there has some more images?

These are the results...construction of the winch transfer gearbox finally can begin (I think).

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Thursday, October 16th 2008, 2:38am

Dear Delcom Sir,

I finally received my Kraz. But that is not good enough to bring me a ticket as a qualified member of Club Kraz. :-) I have been trying to catch up essential know-how of making paper model since I got my very first papermodel (1:25 T-55A) from GPM. What makes it even more difficult is I can not read Polish nor German.

What keeps confusing me since is the meaning of asterisk * or **. Looks like papermodel companies do not have an overall agreement of how to standardize the "lengenda". For example:

1. In Renova Kraz 255 B, * means laminating on 1mm thick cardboard whereas in GPM Sd.Kfz. 250/3 GRIEF, * means "podklejamy kartonem" ( does not specify the thickness of cardboard at all.. :( )

2. Likewise, in Renova Kraz, again number with hyperbolic K means "podkleic kartonem" (again does not specify the thickness of this kartonem )

Dear Sir, can you kindly be my tutor?

Best reagrds,
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Modellbaubogen on my das bücherregal
1. GPM 1:25 T-55A
2. GPM 1:25 Sd.Kfz.250/3 GREIF
3. Halinski 1:25 T-34/76
4. Kartonowy Arsenal 1:25 Sd.Kfz.7 8 ton Semi Track
5. Military Model 1:25 Flak 36/37
6. Maly Modelarz 1:25 MK. VIII Cromwell
7. Renova 1:25 KRAZ 255B 6x6
8. Maly Modelarz 1:25 T-72 ---- im bau

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Friday, October 17th 2008, 4:15pm

Hi fello Sir,
please, do not SIR me, I'm still a 31-year-old kid...lol

Wow...I'm so happy you received your truck as well. I really would like to help you with the meaning of the legends used by Renova, so let me give you this link to their official site. It's a pdf that claims to be English for their own KRAZ 255. Unfortunately it's just English words put in totally random sequence, so most of the time the sentences have no meaning. It's like first they translated the original text into German than to Greek perhaps a little Japanese...back to Polish and then some pocket translator did the final job resulting a rather funny Anglo kind of text.

No big deal...if you can pick the key words, perhaps read in between the lines, you can pull this job off. I totally ignore those legends, since I build my truck freestyle. I hope later in the construction this won't give me any headache.

Make sure you make a beautiful presentation of your build...I am really anxious to see your truck taking shape. Good luck, fello.

and the link: http://www.renova-model.com.pl/pliki/kra…instruction.pdf

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Tuesday, October 21st 2008, 10:40am

Hello delcom.

Thank you very much. I checked the link and got them printed out. I think it is much easier to catch up what should be aware of from this Anglo type of text. :)

As a forty something person, I tend to get things (and knowledg as well) well prepared before commencing the work especially this Kraz 255 B seems to me too precious to let go the construction. (kind of hesitating) So instead, I am now working on 1:25 Maly Modelarz T-72 ( 1985 edition ). I will post it sooer or later.

Thanks once again.
Modellbaubogen on my das bücherregal
1. GPM 1:25 T-55A
2. GPM 1:25 Sd.Kfz.250/3 GREIF
3. Halinski 1:25 T-34/76
4. Kartonowy Arsenal 1:25 Sd.Kfz.7 8 ton Semi Track
5. Military Model 1:25 Flak 36/37
6. Maly Modelarz 1:25 MK. VIII Cromwell
7. Renova 1:25 KRAZ 255B 6x6
8. Maly Modelarz 1:25 T-72 ---- im bau

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Friday, December 26th 2008, 10:13pm

Hi,
that's why you shouldn't hop in your car with a screwdriver in your pocket.

Nice to be back again,
Marry Christmas folks,

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Saturday, December 27th 2008, 12:42pm

Hi folks,
here we go again. Well...the driver's seat. This morning I made up my mind about the seat cover. This seat will be covered with canvas-like fabric. Yes, you're guessing right...it's toilet paper. Found a roll of extra soft "wiper" that has four extremely thin layers. I just hope its texture isn't gonna collapse during the painting process.
At this point I think the passenger seat will sport the traditional "amazing fake leather". And yes, it will have the weird red(ish) color. (Subject to change though).

Stay tuned for my evening update.

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Saturday, December 27th 2008, 3:05pm

Some initial shots...more junk.

I hope you guys kinda like them. More depth (highlights and shadows) comes later.

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Sunday, December 28th 2008, 10:21pm

A lot of research...little progress.

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Sunday, December 28th 2008, 11:51pm

wow, really impressive weathering and of course modeling techniques! there's a lot of useful stuff in this thread, keep it coming! :prost:

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Monday, December 29th 2008, 11:16am

Hi delcom!

Amazing work! I will follow your KRAZ building.=D>
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Monday, December 29th 2008, 11:26am

Sanyo,

Koszonom szepen az elismero szavakat. Igerem becsuletesen informallak benneteket a teherautom szuleteserol.

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Monday, December 29th 2008, 12:04pm

hi delcom !

perfect highend modelling. your building report is one of my favorite. keep on building.............

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Monday, December 29th 2008, 2:44pm

Good day,
some small parts for this morning: springs (only for comfort). Sorry about the red background though.

And guys, really thanx for the nice words...I really mean it. To me it is one of the most important "ingredients" of the job.

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Monday, December 29th 2008, 6:00pm

Szia delcom!

Arra szeretnelek megkerni, hogyha ez nem nagy faradtsag neked, hogy publikáld a KRAZ-t a magyar papirmakettesek foruman.

http://www.papirmakett.hu/forum/index.php

Szep munkadbol sokat tanulhatnank.

Koszonettel:
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Tuesday, December 30th 2008, 12:47pm

Hello, very much what you are doing appeals to me. I found a few drawings at myself - I hope that they will be useful to you.

If you need some concrete photograph let know - perhaps I will have them.

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Tuesday, December 30th 2008, 1:45pm

M.A.N max,
thanks a lot. Figure 10. is priceless. Appreciate it. It seems you have also quite a large 255 photo collection. I'll let you know if I need something specific.

sincerely,
delcom

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Tuesday, December 30th 2008, 1:52pm

Good morning,
You guys can imagine how much I'm looking forward to get these parts painted. Only a few more tiny brackets, arms to go. However, I'm planning to replace these two springs with slightly smaller ones. They appear to be just a little too big. The seat snubber came out quite ok.

later,
delcom
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