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Sunday, July 23rd 2006, 3:20pm

GPM 242 USS Missouri

Hi!
So im representing you my first card model, it has some flows :( , but you may critisise them, and add some tips to help to improve my work with the next ship =)

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Sunday, July 23rd 2006, 3:43pm

RE: GPM 242 USS Missouri

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and my current project in the last picture:


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Sunday, July 23rd 2006, 5:18pm

thank you for assistance eskatee, i should buy myself a new computer, this one goes kind'a' nuts :D
some features just wont work in forum ?(
I will try to set my explorer features :)

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Sunday, July 23rd 2006, 8:06pm

Hi Mark,


outstanding work!

That should be a clash of giants when you Yamato is finished. The model is everywhere acclaimes as one of Halinskis finest.

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Sunday, July 23rd 2006, 11:22pm

GPM 272 USS Missouri

Dear Marky Mark:

You picked a really difficult first project. Most of us would pick something much less ambitious. I may never try one wiith so many anti aircraft weapons. It is very tedious work, I am sure. Beautiful job!

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Monday, July 24th 2006, 6:55am

RE: GPM 242 USS Missouri

Hi, Mark.
Great job!
Certainly there are some ways to improve that kind of models.
For instance there's a special technique of making very smooth flowless
underwater part of the ship. I haven't mastered it yet. But a lot of people use it here on kartonbau.de. Check out Peter's construction report on HMV-Bismarck 1:200.
But your ship still looks magestic. =D> =D> =D>
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Monday, July 24th 2006, 9:54am

RE: GPM 242 USS Missouri

Hi Marko,

Always good to here there is more to come ;),

groetjes,
Gert

P.S. As you can see, by clicking on the picture you will get a bigger picture and for studying details you can click on this new picture.
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Monday, July 24th 2006, 10:24am

RE: GPM 242 USS Missouri

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special technique of making very smooth flowless
underwater part of the ship


Yes, i've seen this technique already, however i've also seen much cleverer and more realistic one. I will find the pictures and attach them overe here.

Many thanks too all for compliments and tips :)
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Monday, July 24th 2006, 2:26pm

RE: GPM 242 USS Missouri

Oh, it's curious.
Can you otline this new technique (in general words)?
It would great to see the pictures.
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Monday, July 24th 2006, 5:11pm

RE: GPM 242 USS Missouri

Im sorry, but the current page is momentary offline, will try to get the pictures when it will be avaible, the technique was used by an taiwanese modeller ( i think) and it was represented also on halinski's yamato (3dpapermodel forum). The basic state of plating is around its natural look, wich means you have to cut ..lets say 100mm long and cca, 5 mm wide strips of thin paper (ordinary A4),and use some kind of microchip of this lenght to punch in small holes (as represents bolts - i think this is proper term for these joining elements) first you put on the original plating and over that you glue these strips of wich is every single one specially shaped to get nice smooth lines of plating (as on the real ship)
i surpose that is pretty delayable job, but its result is really outstanding =)
Hope that the forum and page will be online soon, so i can also add some pictures ;), im also thinking to use this technique on my further models
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Monday, July 24th 2006, 6:34pm

I've seen that method, and it produces great result. However - I can imagine few things that are more tedious than this.

My next construction will feature yet a new method of hull construction. If it works out as intend it, there will be no visible seams whatsoever ;)

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Tuesday, July 25th 2006, 6:05am

The only thing that surprises me about GPM's Missouri is the color of the deck. Why on earth is it blue? It should be of the color of the wood!
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Tuesday, July 25th 2006, 10:23am

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The only thing that surprises me about GPM's Missouri is the color of the deck. Why on earth is it blue? It should be of the color of the wood!


Yaroslav, NO!!

Don´t do that mistake and recolor an american wartime deck to wood.
The most decks are colored in "Deck Blue 20-B" during WW2. The only exceptions are the flightdecks of carriers (colored in "Flightdeck Stain") and some camouflage shemes where some parts of the deck are colored in a different color than 20-B.
Look here. Under "Ship Camouflage Database" you could find the database of nearly all us ships and their camouflagesheme during war. Under "Camouflage Measures" you´ll find the general painting instruction for the shemes.

The wooden decks came back after the surrender of japan.

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Tuesday, July 25th 2006, 3:46pm

Hallo, Marco.
Thank you very much for the reference.
I didn't know! I'm really surprised!
How unusual!
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Thursday, July 27th 2006, 1:22am

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Hallo, Marco.
Thank you very much for the reference.
I didn't know! I'm really surprised!
How unusual!


Actually the original GPMs colour scheme of top wiew is kind'a'wrong.
It hasn't any smooth lines from side to top wiew, in fact there is NO black trace of colour on main deck and first upper deck. (if my memory is correct it should be at left lower AA guns (see tamiya's paint instructions)

however...im back from my few days 'vacation' and the page is also back online, so im adding some links from the forum pics. It will be only URLs, because i just haven't find time to ask the modeller for persmission =)
basic hull plating:
http://img228.exs.cx/img228/277/p32100488km.jpg
preparing the strips:
http://img209.exs.cx/img209/9995/tnp32200592aq.jpg
microchip for "punch in's": http://img228.exs.cx/img228/3293/tnp32300612tf.jpg
plating1:
http://img167.exs.cx/img167/4577/tnp32500625wg.jpg
plating2:
http://img104.exs.cx/img104/6035/tnp33000646ks.jpg
plating sanding:
http://img104.exs.cx/img104/4048/tnp33000669fd.jpg
hull painted:
http://img70.exs.cx/img70/7218/tnp40400786zt.jpg
hull details:
http://img70.exs.cx/img70/8779/tnp40300738sj.jpg
hull details 2:
http://img70.exs.cx/img70/1926/tnp40300768to.jpg

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Thursday, July 27th 2006, 9:51am

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Actually the original GPMs colour scheme of top wiew is kind'a'wrong.
It hasn't any smooth lines from side to top wiew, in fact there is NO black trace of colour on main deck and first upper deck. (if my memory is correct it should be at left lower AA guns (see tamiya's paint instructions)


I wouldn´t say that the GPM sheme is wrong. Take a look at this. This is the original USN painting instruction for the Iowa-Class. Which say (for me) that there are no smooth lines and no black on the decks.

Marco

P.S.: I have the links to the .mil pictues too, but not everyone could open them.

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Thursday, July 27th 2006, 11:35am

Hm...yes, looks like i've had wrong data for schematics. but still one smal strip of top wiew at 350 - 450that is missing if this schematics is correct. still...the us navy had interesting camouflage during WWII true :)
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Thursday, July 27th 2006, 12:47pm

The small strip is not missing, I found it in your pictures.
But the first upperdeck got a wrong colour.
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Thursday, July 27th 2006, 1:39pm

yes that is correct, the first upper deck was retouched completely with as similar colour mixed as possible, the print had left some ugly 'scars' and i've mixed up a batch of colour as similar as possible. still was completely in one type a bit darker but gouaches are pretty unpredictible with mixing
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Friday, July 28th 2006, 10:20am

Wow! This plating technique is pretty impressive! However, as I see there's a little imperfection. Namely, the ribs are slightly visible.
To avoid this one have to use the technique I mentioned above
(it's relatively simple) and then, after having achieved very smooth hull, one can apply plating.
Unfortunately it's too late for my HMV-Bismarck.
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