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Tuesday, November 22nd 2005, 7:24pm

Black Swan class sloop - HMS Starling / Eigenbau / 1:200

Hi Friends

This time I thought I would try for a waterline and full hull ship mainly to keep Rob happy.

It looks better than it is as you can see from the parts list it is really too big for Pepakura to chew and it is trying to form the underwater hull as one piece. It needs replating cut into 20 odd sections laterally maybe it will come out right eventually. The upper hull unfolds quite well.

If anyone has any pics showing the camo pattern of these ships (I am tired of grey) and the colours plus any info on the decks around the aft of the bridge and the funnel area. I would be grateful to see them.

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Tuesday, November 22nd 2005, 9:57pm

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Tuesday, November 22nd 2005, 10:50pm

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Thanks Spee I had missed those 2 helps a lot

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Wednesday, November 23rd 2005, 8:00am

Hi Bazzer

A ship just got to have those big red bits =) =)

Another great model on the way, I can't wait 8)

Hope you don't have to do any work this week so we can see some more very soon

Take care mate

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Wednesday, November 30th 2005, 1:48am

decks

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First attempts on the hull and decks, the keelplate fitting for the waterline version is always a problem to start with and this is no exception.

These ships were designed for one purpose Convoy protection, deck guns to match a U boat just enough speed to outrun one on the surface (about 20 knots) fairly heavy AA armament 4 twin bofors and 20 mm and 6 4" guns and almost overloaded with depth charges. A lot larger (300 feet long) than I at first thought a sort of destroyer without the speed. I think they were the first class of RN ships fitted with stabilisers.

The deck breakpoints need some more work, originally I split it at the breakwater but that gives a very uneasy join on the drop down of the after deck break. Ignore the colours I just ran out of ink.

The ruler is 30 cm
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Friday, December 9th 2005, 2:47am

Hull sides

Due to some rather stupid typing I had to start all over again.

Much to my suprise the sides fit very well, the base plate at the stern has to be sanded to allow the sharp undercut there. The hull is tricky to build it's a case of gluing a ccouple of frames at a time and the curves must be rolled in before starting. The hull varies from a highly flared bow, a tumblehome like Victory amidships and then the undercut stern.

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Saturday, December 10th 2005, 12:56am

RE: Hull sides

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Saturday, December 10th 2005, 1:23am

Hull camo

Hi Eskatee

Thannks for the pics much appreciated

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Thursday, December 15th 2005, 2:35am

Starling bridge decks

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Had a few problems deciphering the plans they don't match up on length or the section around the bridge front. This is my interpretation of it.


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Friday, December 30th 2005, 3:12am

Odd additions

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I got fed up of lining up the bridge even though it does now fit at the right angles and you can walk round the back of B gun deck and you would not fall onto the main deck stepping out of the bridge deck house. It looks a mess it has been rebuilt so many times and the bridge house front needs adjustment yet again.

I added a few other more simple bits to restore my will to finish this one.
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Friday, December 30th 2005, 4:38pm

Wotcher, bazzer! =)

She looks pretty darn good from where I'm sitting, mate!

That bow is one of the sharpest I've seen in a while, nicely done, and the run of the hull sides look really good. I don't see any problems that you mention, the houses really look really great and she's a beautiful looking ship! I love the color scheme you are using, it's quite striking from the photos you have posted.

Keep at it, mate, she's a glorious sight to behold.
And have a very Happy New Year!!

Cheers!

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Sunday, January 1st 2006, 12:47am

New bits

This getting boring I think but I have built yet another new bridge my thanks to Maurice for sending me the updates of where the plan was wrong it still requires the front furniture but at least it fits at long last. Added the first try at the radar tower (forgot to paint the inside but I am allowing myself the luxury of printing both sides it's easier than mixing paint. The blast shields need some small adjustments as well.

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Thanks for the kind words and a Happy New Year to you and everyone else too.
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Sunday, January 15th 2006, 1:57am

Starling 4" gun and bofors

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Slowly plodding on with this one I used the the 4.7" guns from Eskimo but I am not sure about the autoloaders at the breech end. The mounting is a bit on the long side but that is not too big a modification. Getting the Bofors to look right is a problem at small scales the funnel looks a bit better with top painted and a cap I added an internal cross former to help line it up the last one twisted out of shape.
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Saturday, January 21st 2006, 1:18pm

40 mm bofors

Modified 4" breech blocks on X gun looks about the right size, added the card parts of the 40mm bofors.
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Sunday, January 22nd 2006, 7:15pm

Wotcher, bazzer! :)

Your photos surely show the wonderful job you did on the coloration of this design. She is looking more splendid with each update, and your work on the details is great.

Keep at it mate. Slowly or not, it's a treat to watch your progress.

Cheers!

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Thursday, February 2nd 2006, 12:52pm

odds and ends cont

Just some of the smaller items
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Sunday, February 5th 2006, 4:45pm

Odd bits

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Monday, February 13th 2006, 6:51pm

Indeed, bazzer...she is getting better and better with each update! :]

Keep at it mate, we are all enjoying this thread very much.

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Tuesday, February 14th 2006, 5:48pm

depth charge deck

Hi All

Now it is beginning to look like the specialist antisubmarine ship she was designed as. Still requires the "K" guns fitting.

Now I have to design the anchor winch always a difficult bit to me nobody ever seems to take a photograph of the uninteresting parts.

Anyway here's a couple of pics technical description front end and back end.

@Jorge and Jim

Thanks for the encouragement
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Tuesday, February 14th 2006, 8:11pm

One word...OUTSTANDING!!!

Can't seem to get enough pictures of this superb build, bazzer!

The windlass might seem a bit uninteresting, but as you probably also feel, without it something just isn't right with the forecastle if you don't include a build of it. ;)

Looking forward to the next update.

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