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Saturday, November 10th 2007, 7:29pm

RE: The West Wing

Before beginning, let's have a look at the side of the donjon that will be facing Aile Dauphine. We can photograph this side and compare it to one of Ludwig's picutres before the west wing gets in the way.

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Saturday, November 10th 2007, 7:30pm

RE: The West Wing

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Saturday, November 10th 2007, 7:34pm

RE: The West Wing

Dead on I'd say. Notice the curving masonry in the left foreground of the photo. That's the balustrade of the arcade around the winding staircase. The wall of the arcade hasn't been added yet to the model. It will attach to the tower at N15 &N16.

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Monday, November 12th 2007, 12:05am

West Wing Construction

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Monday, November 12th 2007, 12:21am

RE: West Wing Construction

In place. Well, actually it isn't. Good thing it's just sitting there and is not glued down. Notice the roof. See something wrong?
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Monday, November 12th 2007, 9:57pm

RE: West Wing Construction

The west gallery.
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Monday, November 12th 2007, 9:57pm

RE: West Wing Construction

In place.
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Tuesday, November 13th 2007, 12:50am

RE: West Wing Construction

The staircase terrace in place.
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Tuesday, November 13th 2007, 12:52am

RE: West Wing Construction

Escalier Henri II in place.
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Tuesday, November 13th 2007, 11:52pm

RE: West Wing Construction

The roof of the main building of the west wing bulges out when folded up. Even when this roof is glued to the tops of the walls of the building it will tend to bulge. This is not natural. The eye expects to see plane surfaces in such a roof and will pick up on the bulge immediately.

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Tuesday, November 13th 2007, 11:54pm

RE: West Wing Construction

Aile Dauphine.
Notice the attempt to colour the patches below the chimney. Perhaps some lines through it to represent the slate lines? Here again, this could have been avoided with a better printing technique.
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Wednesday, November 14th 2007, 3:14pm

RE: West Wing Construction

Aile Dauphine in place.
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Wednesday, November 14th 2007, 3:16pm

RE: West Wing Construction

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Wednesday, November 14th 2007, 3:16pm

RE: West Wing Construction

...and from the side.
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Wednesday, November 14th 2007, 3:19pm

To Date

Chambord looking north.
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Wednesday, November 14th 2007, 3:27pm

RE: To Date

This is a beautifully designed model. With the exception of a few roof parts, the fit so far is excellent. It is the little wrinkles or glitches that make it fun. This is not a model for someone who is not prepared to take time to adjust angles so that parts are plumb or shorten parts to make this happen. Some of the turrets, dormer faces and chimneys on the cover model are tipped at awkward angles.

Having built the model, I can see how this has occurred. A little care makes things right. The model has good bones.

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Dies ist ein wunderschön entworfenes Modell. Mit Ausnahme einiger Dachteile, ist die Paßgenauigkeit bisher exzellent. Es sind die kleinen Falten und Problemchen, die Spaß machen. Dies ist kein Modell für jemanden, der nicht drauf vorbereitet ist, sich etwas Zeit zu nehmen, die Winkel anzupassen, damit Teile rechtwinkelig werden oder mal ein Teil dafür zu kürzen. Einige der Türme, Gauben und Schornsteine stehen schon beim Titelbild in seltsamen Winkeln.
Nach dem Bau dieses Modells kann ich mir vorstellen, warum das passiert ist. Ein bisschen Achtsamkeit hilft hier. Das Modell hat seine Qualitäten.

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Wednesday, November 14th 2007, 3:53pm

Now attention turns to the lower regions of the chateau that surround the large front courtyard.
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Saturday, November 17th 2007, 4:01pm

The low buildings in the foreground of Chambord have flat roofs. The photos on the covers of the model book indicate that there was a problem keeping them flat. They undulate in their longitudinal axis and either bow up or sag in their lateral axis. You can see the undulations in these photos.
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Saturday, November 17th 2007, 4:05pm

To prevent this, the undersides of the roofs will be reinforced with card. In this shot you will see a jog in the two card pieces. This will prevent the paper part above (the roof of the corner tower) from aligning on the same seam as the underlying card.
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Saturday, November 17th 2007, 9:10pm

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Saturday, November 17th 2007, 9:11pm

...makes quite a difference.
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Sunday, November 18th 2007, 8:51pm

Communs D'Orléans

The orleans quarters is the first one storey building section to be glued to the base.
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Sunday, November 18th 2007, 8:58pm

RE: Communs D'Orléans

You will see lying on the courtyard just beyond the new structure, the roof of the Chaudron Tower which will anchor the southeast corner of the complex. It is heavily reinforced. Bonding the paper roof to its 1mm card with glue caused the card to warp. I normally would use spray adhesive. The 1/4" MDF was overkill, but did the job of straightening things out. I did not want the roof of this round tower to 'dish' or go concave. The eye would notice this in an instant and think the roof had sunken in.
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Sunday, November 18th 2007, 9:04pm

RE: Communs D'Orléans

The Orleans quarters coming down the east side and awaiting construction of Chaudron Tower.
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Monday, November 19th 2007, 3:13pm

RE: Communs D'Orléans

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Monday, November 19th 2007, 5:27pm

RE: Communs D'Orléans

Hi John !

It´s so interesting to see the growt of your castle.
25 years ago i stay in french and visit the castle, but when i see your
story her, i see much more details as in real :)

Thank you for the wunderfull picture´s

Greetengs from austria
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Tuesday, November 20th 2007, 1:38am

Hi John,

When I look to the progress of your work, then I´m very optimistic you will finish in time.

Cheers, Herbert

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Tuesday, November 20th 2007, 2:41pm

Hello Kurt,
Thank you. Yes, the model seems to accurately depict the real thing.

Hi Herbert,
Yes, I think I just might make it. In more ways than one.
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Tuesday, November 20th 2007, 2:42pm

The West Side

Coming down the west side is the Princess Wing. It will be terminated at the corner with Princess Tower.
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Tuesday, November 20th 2007, 2:56pm

RE: The West Side

Before the Princess tower is placed in the southwest corner, the Royal Entrance with its two flanking wings across the front of the Chambord courtyard will be constructed.

Here is a shot of this facade. The Royal Entrance is directly in the centre.
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Saturday, November 24th 2007, 10:37pm

Porte Royale

The Royal Entrance with its two wings are now in place.
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Saturday, November 24th 2007, 10:39pm

RE: Porte Royale

They enclose the courtyard.
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Saturday, November 24th 2007, 10:40pm

RE: Porte Royale

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Saturday, November 24th 2007, 10:42pm

The right wing of the Royal Entrance joining Chaudron Tower
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Sunday, November 25th 2007, 12:09am

Tour des Princes

The last tower in the Chambord complex is located here. It will finish up all work on the south side of the chateau.

We are on the home stretch.
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Sunday, November 25th 2007, 12:24am

Hi John,

Quoted

Yes, I think I just might make it. In more ways than one.


I try to read between the lines.

The harder I try the more I do think this are good news.

Am´I right.

Hopefully.

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Sunday, November 25th 2007, 3:08am

Yes, Herbert.
You are very good at reading between the lines.
Chambord will be completed!

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Sunday, November 25th 2007, 4:16am

Very nice work John!

Even not being finished yet, the model looks great already.

I am right now down to more a "practical" buiding... Hope I can finish my model as well on time. I tought laser cuts would help to be fast...

With best regards,

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Sunday, November 25th 2007, 5:19pm

Hello Matthias,
Thank you. You are coming along nicely with your model as well. Sorry I haven't been following it more closely.

Here is the last major component going into position on the south side of Chambord - Tour des Princes.
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Sunday, November 25th 2007, 5:25pm

Here is a comparative look at the photo of Chambord and the model.
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