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Czesc,
znamy sie juz dlugo, postanowilem wiec przeprowadzic tutaj relacje z budowy samolotu Spad XIII - niestety moge pisac tylko po polsku i angielsku - bede wdzieczny za przetlumaczenie na jezyk niemiecki.
Model ten ukaze sie w styczniu 2007 roku nakladem wydawnictwa Answer - oprocz malowania polskiego pojawi sie takze kolorowe malowanie francuskie. Wycinanka zawiera trzy arkusze z czesciami (wiele drobnych detali), oraz zbyt malo rysunkow - autorem jest S. Sliwinski (Bristol M.1C , Knoller, Macchi M5, Friedrchshaffen FF33 i inne).
Spad XIII to wersja rozwojowa Spada VII - najbardziej go przypomina - jest nieco wiekszy, ma dwa karabiny (zamiast jednego). Moj samolot prezentuje pozna wersje (z plaskimi koncowkami skrzydel).
Tak wyglada okladka
Nothing hurts like a life...
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26.12.2006 - skleielem kolejne detale - drazek sterowy, zawor paliwowy (byl szary, a powinien byc srebrny, wiec go przemalowalem), waz paliwowy, fotel, ozebrowanie kabiny - calkiem dobrze przypomina to prawdziwa kabine Spada XIII
27.12.2006 - kolejne detale, zakrylem kabine; fotel w tym modelu jest za duzy - zaslania zbyt wiele rzeczy - dodatkowo nie powinien byc przyklejony do tylnej scianki kabiny - trzeba to samemu poprawic. Duzym problemem jest brak rysunkow - nie pokazuja niestety wszystkiego zbyt dokladnie
28.12.2006 - skleilem elementy poszycia razem za pomoca paskow z cienkiego papieru - wczesniej oszlifowalem szkielet, zeby latwo bylo go wsunac do srodka. Dzieki sklejeniu "trumny" opanowalem falowanie brzegow oraz uzyskalem odpowiedni ksztalt i symetrie
Wiele problemow mialem ze sklejeniem przedenij czesci kadluba - wynikalo to nie z niedopasowania, tylko z braku odpowiednich rysunkow - poniewaz jest to trudny projekt, wiec nielatwo bylo zgadnac co i jak trzeba zrobic.
Zaluzje na spodzie nacialem skalpelem i odgialem na zewnatrz
Nothing hurts like a life...
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29.12.2006 - przez pomylke wkleilem dwie lewe czesci 21 - jedna musialem pomalowac. Ale pozniej odkrylem, ze w wyciance wszystko jest w porzadku - czesc 21 jest lewa i prawa (lewa podwojna) - odklelem stara i przykleilem nowa
This is an outstanding build. My only regret is that I don't get any of your comments (in Polish).
You seem to varnish the model with a rather glossy varnish. Is that something you do before you cut out the parts, or as you go along and finish section after section (or perhaps both)?
Would be interesting to hear. The result is very nice, although I wouldn't have dared use quite such a glossy varnish.
Respectfully, Leif
PS. Everybody - the full images are rather nice to whatch at Tad's own site. Links are in the signature.
Dankbar für die Gelegenheit auf Englisch schreiben zu dürfen, kann aber Antworten problemlos auf Deutsch lesen.
Hi Leif,
thank you for your kind compliments. It's rather hard to me to explaine everything in English, so I decided writing in Polish - if someone could translate it would be great help.
As I wrote in Polish - it was varnished with common acrylic varnish (generally prepared to wood - cheap and easy to get) before cutting anything - due to changes, that water makes with paper. Cowling was even varnished again later with satin Humbrol - photos in few minutes.
This kind of politure (surface) was due to pictures taken from this great site http://memorial.flight.free.fr/indexuk.html Here are some examples showing how glossy it was (this is scheme of second issue of this plane just prepared by Answer publisher)
Regards
TAD
Nothing hurts like a life...
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Czesc,
zbudowalem panele i zaluzje - nastepnie pomalowalem czesc "blaszana" satynowym Humbrolem, zeby sie odrozniala od plociennej reszty.
Panele na bokach powinny miec wglebione a nie wypukle zaluzje - niestety nieb ylo o tym slowa w wycinance, zas odpowiednie zdjecie znalazlem za pozno - tak juz zostanie.
TAD
Hi Hemingway,
thank you very much - I also like your models - often watch them on cardmodels.
About this report - I wonder if this make sens - some things is hard to explaine to me in english, on the other side most of you can't read in polish - just watching photos doesn't explaine everything.
Regards,
TAD
Hi friends,
I've built machine guns and view-finder (backsight?) - from a thin wire. It looks not so well, but I couldn't better.
I wonder about giving all those pannels on the fuselage - on the one hand it is done to make model realistic (in the real plane you could even put fingers between parts of plate near the engine), but on the other hand paper is to thick - even in real it looks for too much. Maybe it would be better idea - in those small planes - just leave it as a drawing (I hope it's understable - sorry for my language skills).
TAD
Nothing hurts like a life...
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Hi Malo,
thank you very much.
About varnishing - if you look carefoully you see two different glossy plate. On the back "canvas" side it was done with acrylic varnish used to wood (before cutting anything) - it is less shining. And on the "metal" front it was done with satin varnish from Humbrol - on acrylic make it even more glossy. I tried to achive something like on those photos of the real plane attached above.
Regards,
TAD
Hi,
it took me some time to wait for laser-cut parts, as I couldn't cut them myself - they are to small, there is too many of them - more convenient was use those ones.
After building lower wing I attached it to the fuselage. Thanks to laser cut ribbs (22 for each wing) it was possible to do nice, realistic ribbing.
View-finder will be changed, as I don't like my previous job.
As you can see finally I made all plane less glossy (using much much watered paint) - probably in such a small model it would be to heavy and not so well looking - that's a right of modellism.
Regards,
TAD
Nothing hurts like a life...
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hi Tadeusz,
i'm back here after some time, so at first, let me congratulate you to a well done job - it looks great.
if i can judge from the photos (i know they can be confusing, especially if taken in artificial lighting), making the surface less glossy helped a lot - it really looks better. BTW, did you use regular brush or an airbrush for varnishing?
P. Burn the land and boil the sea
You cant take the sky from me
Very beautiful plane. I am amazed by how precisely you build it. I have a quest: What varnish do you use, and why you laquer separate parts instead of whole model (after it is finished). I know, that polish people are very concered about varnishing models. Can you tell your position about this
Hi Mindaugas,
thank you very much - I'm also cencerned with your P-38 - great job.
About varnishing - I do it before finishing model due to its amount of complication - it would be difficult do it later. Generally it was varnished before cutting wit acryl varnish, but the cowling I painted with satin Humbrol varnish. As I said - all plane was made less glossy, as it looked rather too shiny before (however that's how it looks on this planes). I'm not able to describe in few words - especialy in foreign language - what took me a long article in Kartonowy Fan - I'm sorry.
Regards,
TAD
Nothing hurts like a life...
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There is nothing to complain, the wires are made perfect. Whole built is very nice and with high accuracy as usual.
I'am keen to see more.
I have a question to the expert. I want to make my first experiences with coating spray. Can I spray over clear plastic foils ? or have they to be protected, better to be applied afterwards ?
Best Regards
René
Wer Bier nicht liebt und Weib und Knödel
der bleibt ein Leben lang ein Blödel
About using spray - much depends on this if you use a can spray or air brush (the second one lets you do it very precisly). I must say that I tried once use simply can spray on the finished plane - the plastic canopy got "milky" and that was a catastrophy. Generally I don't like spray as it gets dust from the air and using common resinous spray its easy to make damp patches (you don't see effect imediatelly - so are trying and trying again - that's a disaster). I recommend you dedicated varnishes by Humbrol or Model Master - it's not so hard to use them with simply brush - due to their great values.
Regards,
TAD
Hi,
I've built ailerons and mechanisms of moving them. This is far from real mechanism, but I couldn't make it without destroying previous job - it's changed comparing to simplified parts in the kit.
TAD
Hi Friends,
finally I did landing - gear and some strong whatering. Hovewer I didn't like it so removed lately most of them - it wasn't a problem due to sanded surface. There will be some whatering, as I like it generally, but not so strong. This time yet photos with it.
Regards,
TAD
Hi,
at least my plane achieved the finall look of the fuselage. There was another previous shape which i didn't included here (avaliable on my site) - simply not so interesting in my opinion. Building is almost finished.
As you can see I removed most of the previous wathering as I didn't like it after all. It was done with some kind of "dust" and was easy to remove from sanded surface.
Regards,
TAD
Nothing hurts like a life...
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Hi,
I've done a propeller and shutters, hovever there is a mistake in there. Shutters should be done at line of the fuselage - not so deep inside. In my opinion that's a mistake of the kit - I realised this at the end.
TAD
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