Dear visitor, welcome to Kartonbau.de - Alles rund um Papiermodelle, Kartonmodellbau und Bastelbogen. If this is your first visit here, please read the Help. It explains in detail how this page works. To use all features of this page, you should consider registering. Please use the registration form, to register here or read more information about the registration process. If you are already registered, please login here.

Hi-Torque

Professional

  • "Hi-Torque" is male
  • "Hi-Torque" started this thread

Posts: 1,108

Date of registration: Apr 6th 2010

Occupation: Aircraft Maintenance Mercenary

  • Send private message

1

Monday, November 5th 2012, 2:56pm

Panama Canal mit der SLOMAN ALSTERTOR / HMV - Eigenbau / 1:250

Hello Friends,

I wish to make a diorama with the SLOMAN ALSTERTOR. I think these reefers made by Howalt Deutsch Werft in 1967/68 (coincidentally the same year I was "launched down the slipway") were some of the most elegant cargo vessels ever designed. I found some months ago an account by a former crew member who lists many interesting ports of call. Naturally, I first wanted to recreate Hamburger Hafen in this era. But, after pondering awhile I may choose a Far East or South American port. Hence the strange thread title at this point.

EDIT: Thanks to the suggestion of Der Betreiber, I have settled on showing the SLOMAN ALSTERTOR transiting the Panama Canal. According to Herr Kreuzer, she made this passage in 1970 as part of her Worldwide cruise.

The SLOMAN ALSTERTOR and her sister the SLOMAN ALSTERPARK were the last two vessels of this design produced. The SLOMAN ALSTERTOR was broken up around 1994.

EDIT: Thanks friends for your suggestions and assistance! I would ask the members for any preferences in regards to ports and to provide pictures or links if at all possible.

I will begin construction shortly. At 58cm I may need a larger mat :)

Kind Regards,

Cris

All Images copyright their respective owners.
Hi-Torque has attached the following images:
  • DSCF5280.JPG
  • 1036iw6.jpg

This post has been edited 4 times, last edit by "Hi-Torque" (Nov 17th 2012, 8:54am)


Heiner

Professional

  • "Heiner" is male

Posts: 598

Date of registration: Jan 26th 2005

Occupation: Jurist

  • Send private message

2

Monday, November 5th 2012, 3:47pm

Having played "Ports of Call" for some Years now, I think, Buenos Aires might be interesting, though I have no idea, how this port looked like in the past. In the game it´s an interesting collection of some small bassins , connected by a small canal, lots of opportunities to show different vessels of all sizes close togehter. And a few meters to the south, there ends this river riachuelo, that seems to be rich in traffic, though poor in nature left...
"Ich bin der Meinung, dass man als Modellbauer keine besonderen Fähigkeiten besitzen muss, sondern nur Geduld und die Entschlossenheit zur Beendigung des Modellbaus. " (Art) (WELTMEISTER)

  • "Robert Hoffmann" is male

Posts: 3,592

Date of registration: Oct 19th 2005

  • Send private message

3

Monday, November 5th 2012, 4:08pm

Hi Cris,
may you can use this link http://seefahrt.efeuhaus.de/schiffe/pekari.php, look for Galerie/Haefen.

What about a scene from the Panamacanal?

Regards
Robi

Hi-Torque

Professional

  • "Hi-Torque" is male
  • "Hi-Torque" started this thread

Posts: 1,108

Date of registration: Apr 6th 2010

Occupation: Aircraft Maintenance Mercenary

  • Send private message

4

Monday, November 5th 2012, 4:16pm

Hallo Friends!

@Heiner und Robi: South America does sound like a good idea, Even just one 1:250 palm tree :). And the Canal..Brilliant! That would solve a lot of my problems.

I was leaning toward Japan and specifically Tokyo, but this canal idea has me excited! Hmmm, I wonder about the Suez Canal?

Thanks my Brothers!

Cris

  • "Robert Hoffmann" is male

Posts: 3,592

Date of registration: Oct 19th 2005

  • Send private message

5

Monday, November 5th 2012, 4:21pm

:thumbsup:

  • "Robert Hoffmann" is male

Posts: 3,592

Date of registration: Oct 19th 2005

  • Send private message

6

Monday, November 5th 2012, 4:25pm

Hi Cris,
why thinking about Palmtrees?
Here is the solution http://www.samtrees.com/cchanpin.asp?a_xiaolei=Palm%20Trees
Regards

Robi

Tobias A

Intermediate

  • "Tobias A" is male

Posts: 342

Date of registration: Jan 11th 2012

  • Send private message

7

Monday, November 5th 2012, 5:21pm

Hi Cris!


I´m really looking forward to see your report on the "Sloman Alstertor", which I also have started to build.
were some of the most elegant cargo vessels ever designed.
Yes!!!! :thumbsup:


Regards


Tobias

Hi-Torque

Professional

  • "Hi-Torque" is male
  • "Hi-Torque" started this thread

Posts: 1,108

Date of registration: Apr 6th 2010

Occupation: Aircraft Maintenance Mercenary

  • Send private message

8

Monday, November 5th 2012, 5:37pm

Hi Everyone!

@ Robi: Those are great! They seem to be similar to the Japanese flowers I posted sometime ago Table Garden

@Tobias: Well as lovely as your last vessel was, I can only assume your ALSTERTOR is glorious!

Kind Regards,

Cris

Hi-Torque

Professional

  • "Hi-Torque" is male
  • "Hi-Torque" started this thread

Posts: 1,108

Date of registration: Apr 6th 2010

Occupation: Aircraft Maintenance Mercenary

  • Send private message

9

Saturday, November 17th 2012, 9:07am

Hello Friends,

Having finished up my little Star Trek display, and cleared my mat of any stray Warp Nacelles or Shuttlecraft, I am finally ready to lay the keel. However, here are some interesting links regarding the Panama Canal.

A very kind Flickr user has agreed to let me share her photos of her transit through the Canal in 1968 Panama Canal 1967-1968. I will certainly show more of these later.

Here is an historic account of the building of the Canal.

Kind Regards,

Cris

  • "modellschiff" is male

Posts: 8,152

Date of registration: Dec 20th 2006

Occupation: Pensionär

  • Send private message

10

Saturday, November 17th 2012, 9:55am

Hi Cris,
what a wonderfull idea to built this ship together with some panamascene. I never knew there are palmtrees to build in cardboard. Years ago I build some out of korean fir needles. But they have lost colour.
Good luck .
With the best regards
Ulrich

Hi-Torque

Professional

  • "Hi-Torque" is male
  • "Hi-Torque" started this thread

Posts: 1,108

Date of registration: Apr 6th 2010

Occupation: Aircraft Maintenance Mercenary

  • Send private message

11

Saturday, November 17th 2012, 10:09pm

Hello Friends,

Progress on the hull framing.

Kind Regards,

Cris

@Ulrich: Yes, of all of the ideas Hamburg, Tokyo, Buenos Aires etc. I like the Canal Transit the best. I hope to make a very interesting diorama. I was very pleased when I found the pictures of the Canal from that era along with an account by a crew member. I also found those flowers and trees fascinating!
Hi-Torque has attached the following images:
  • DSCF5327.JPG
  • DSCF5330.JPG
  • DSCF5331.JPG
  • DSCF5332.JPG

  • "SHIPLOVER48" is male

Posts: 2,890

Date of registration: May 28th 2008

Occupation: Kriminalbeamter/"Unruheständler"

  • Send private message

12

Sunday, November 18th 2012, 12:13pm

Hi Cris,
a great idea to build that ship and include her in such a diorama.
I by myself have passed the canal on board of MS CELEBRITY INFINITY in 2010 and took quite a lot of photos especially when being in the locks. If you are interested in some or the other - don't hesitate to ask for.
Be shure - I will have a sharp look at your report!
Kind regards
Kurt
Wer kämpft kann verlieren - wer nicht kämpft hat schon verloren...

Hi-Torque

Professional

  • "Hi-Torque" is male
  • "Hi-Torque" started this thread

Posts: 1,108

Date of registration: Apr 6th 2010

Occupation: Aircraft Maintenance Mercenary

  • Send private message

13

Sunday, November 18th 2012, 9:50pm

Hello Friends,

The framing og the hull is complete and work has started on the decking.

Piet or Henning: Thank you both for such a lovely ship! But could either of you tell a little about part 34a circled in red below? Is it a customs hatch? This area and the funnel are the only two areas that the PEKARI and the SLOMAN ALSTERTOR seem to differ. Are there others? And lastly, do you think these changes were due to the production process or by request of the owner?

Kind Regards,

Cris

@Kurt: Thank you my friend! I think we would all be interested in any photos you care to share!
Hi-Torque has attached the following images:
  • DSCF5333.JPG
  • DSCF5335.JPG
  • DSCF5336.JPG
  • DSCF5338.JPG
  • DSCF5339.JPG
  • DSCF5340.JPG

Hi-Torque

Professional

  • "Hi-Torque" is male
  • "Hi-Torque" started this thread

Posts: 1,108

Date of registration: Apr 6th 2010

Occupation: Aircraft Maintenance Mercenary

  • Send private message

14

Monday, November 19th 2012, 10:39pm

Hello Friends,

The decking is complete. The last picture shows the hull in its (probably!) last beautiful state :)

The Faber Castell PITT Artists pens Cold Grey III number 232 is a good match for the blue grey deck color.

Kind Regards,

Cris
Hi-Torque has attached the following images:
  • DSCF5342.JPG
  • DSCF5346.JPG
  • DSCF5347.JPG
  • DSCF5351.JPG
  • DSCF5353.JPG
  • DSCF5355.JPG

Hi-Torque

Professional

  • "Hi-Torque" is male
  • "Hi-Torque" started this thread

Posts: 1,108

Date of registration: Apr 6th 2010

Occupation: Aircraft Maintenance Mercenary

  • Send private message

15

Wednesday, November 21st 2012, 11:29am

Hello Friends,

Some progress on the hull. The PITT Artist pen Chromium Green Opaque number 174 is a good match for the green portion of the hull.

Kind Regards,

Cris
Hi-Torque has attached the following images:
  • DSCF5367.JPG
  • DSCF5369.JPG
  • DSCF5370.JPG
  • DSCF5371.JPG

  • "modellschiff" is male

Posts: 8,152

Date of registration: Dec 20th 2006

Occupation: Pensionär

  • Send private message

16

Wednesday, November 21st 2012, 11:33am

Hi Cris,
Your picture of the stern shows me You' re a very brave modellist. I would not dare to finsh the stern that way because I have no opportunity to correct the proper fitting later on.
Respect, respect.
With best regards
Ulrich

Hi-Torque

Professional

  • "Hi-Torque" is male
  • "Hi-Torque" started this thread

Posts: 1,108

Date of registration: Apr 6th 2010

Occupation: Aircraft Maintenance Mercenary

  • Send private message

17

Wednesday, November 21st 2012, 11:46am

Hi Ulrich,

brave = stupid :) But it seemed to me after test fitting numerous times it was better to work with only four hull segments rather than six. I am by no means an expert.

Bravely Bumbling Ahead,

Cris

Konpass

Professional

Posts: 739

Date of registration: Oct 19th 2005

Occupation: Pensionär

  • Send private message

18

Wednesday, November 21st 2012, 5:25pm

Hello Cris !

If you prefer to first assemble the outer walls of the hull, why don´t you do it completely, so that you have a ring of bow, side-walls and stern and then put the inner structure of the hull inside this ring? I fear you might have problems fitting your shoes in a midship position.

regards

Henning

  • "lutschinchen" is male

Posts: 85

Date of registration: Aug 7th 2010

  • Send private message

19

Wednesday, November 21st 2012, 9:05pm

Hi Chris,

I crossed the Panama Channel in 1984 and I made some photos. If you want to have such photos, tell me and I try to send it to you.

Your model looks very good.

regards

Guenther

Scotty

Intermediate

  • "Scotty" is male

Posts: 416

Date of registration: Nov 10th 2009

Occupation: Angestellter

  • Send private message

20

Wednesday, November 21st 2012, 9:57pm

Hallo Cris,

die Sloman Alstertor ist ein wirklich schönes Schiff. Die Idee, das Modell in einem Panamakanal-Diorama zu präsentieren ist natürlich auch nicht schlecht.
Den Baubericht habe ich abonniert und werde Dir mit viel Spaß beim Bau zuschauen.

"Glue long and prosper!"

Thomas
Hier fühl ich mich wohl, hier möcht ich sein!
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Baustellen:
V 60 von HS Design in der Königsspur, 1:32=

Aktuell:
Burg Blankenstein vom Schreiber-Verlag 1:250

Hi-Torque

Professional

  • "Hi-Torque" is male
  • "Hi-Torque" started this thread

Posts: 1,108

Date of registration: Apr 6th 2010

Occupation: Aircraft Maintenance Mercenary

  • Send private message

21

Monday, December 24th 2012, 5:17pm

Merry Christmas Friends!

I hope all of you have a wonderful time with family and friends! I am sorry I do not have any progress to show you, the last few weeks have been consumed by work (by my rough calculations in the last month I have flown some 250,000Km) and a nasty flu bug. I hope to resume the lovely SLOMAN ALSTERTOR before the New Year begins. Thank you all for your kind words and advice.

One other small update, after much phone calls and problems of every kind, the Wonderwire is finally on its way to Schkeuditz! I will open a thread in the "Offers" section when I finally have it in my hands.

Thanks my friends and fellow members for another wonderful year of discussion, friendship and paper!

Cheerful Regards,

Cris

Hi-Torque

Professional

  • "Hi-Torque" is male
  • "Hi-Torque" started this thread

Posts: 1,108

Date of registration: Apr 6th 2010

Occupation: Aircraft Maintenance Mercenary

  • Send private message

22

Monday, December 24th 2012, 6:10pm

Hi Friends,

I was just thinking that maybe some of you are a little bit sad that all of the snow went away for Christmas, I know I am (a little bit!) so here a couple of pictures I took while on a layover in Bishkek Kyrgyzstan a couple of days ago -32C in the daytime!!!! Thats my poor 767 in the first picture. The second shows the "heated" pool at my hotel in downtown Bishkek.

Regards,

Cris
Hi-Torque has attached the following images:
  • 033.jpg
  • IMG_20121217_032317.jpg
  • IMG_20121217_032333.jpg

sy-schiwa

Intermediate

  • "sy-schiwa" is male

Posts: 324

Date of registration: Jul 13th 2010

About me: Manfred Hannemann

Occupation: Tischler, Bauingenieur, Rentner

  • Send private message

23

Tuesday, December 25th 2012, 1:10am

Hi Chris,
nice idea, the panama canal diarama.
We are just underway with our sailing boat, staying at Portobelo, Panama.
I went through the P.C. some weeks ago and took several photos.
Look here: http://www.sy-schiwa.de/fotos/2012-karibik-iii/panama-kanal/
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year,

Manfred

Social bookmarks