[completed] Messerschmitt Bf 109E-4 and Bf 109 T-1

Thank you Awot. you found it and you are of great help.
But.... you must own are more recent copy where this item was added.
Let me show you a picture of my copy; the part that contains the solution is still missing there and no doubt is was missing in Dansls1's copy too, otherwise he would sure have found it:

In the meantime I almost finished the interior of the T-1 cockpit. Still missing: the flight stick and the instrument panel. The pictures show the beautiful details on both sides that it contains (the complete box is only 20x40mm).
But I still have some concern:
- where will I put the tiny part B10? Like B 17c it is neither in the diagrams nor in the instructions.
- will everything fit well once I start constructing larger pieces, like assembling the fuselage parts..? What made me worry? Well, this is it: the inner and outer parts of the cockpit seat have the same dimensions. This makes it logically impossible to make them fit well; like the Halinsky seat, the inside should of course be smaller then the outside.
But for the moment the next step will be the interior of the E-4.

Wow.. I did not know he was the one who designed it! =)

Thank you once more!

The instrument panel unit of the T-1 is unfortunately wrong in design: lower and upper panel parts must be joined by strip N2 and thus form a unit(see 'a'). But having done so the lower panel is placed so high against the back of the upper panel part (see 'b') that it is impossible to make the slots on the sides of the upper panel rest on the sides of the cockpit 'box'. Diagrams don't help much here and the real problem is that there are no indications on the parts to show where exactly to place them. I had to improvise: first I fixed the lower panel to the underside of the front opening and then, omitting strip N2, I placed the top panel above it with the slots resting on the sides of the cockpit box (hopefully at the right spot..).

The cockpit inside of the T-1 is ready now (except for the viewfinder/cross-hair instrument that is so fragile that I will add it only when placing the canopy) and now the fundamental differences in design are clear: in the E-4 the cockpit is integrated in the frame structure of the center fuselage section; the T-1 cockpit is a 'bathtub'-like box that will be placed inside the fuselage. We will soon see which one of these concepts will prove to be best..

Just added the pilots seat for the E-4.
Sit down and attach those safety belts...

The E-4's cockpit right inner skin(wiith a wealth of details) ready to be fixed onto the center fuselage frame:

Hi Josve!

Yeeeh, I love those details - by the way: just before my stay in Spain, a few weeks ago, I visited Norway: Oslo--> Bergensbanen --> Geilo --> Flam--> Sognefjord--> Bergen... unbelievable!

No, at the left there it is not a failed Mustang III nor a Thunderbolt - it's just the "outside of the innerskin" of the E-4: the parts of it are printed on the cover of the booklet, resulting in a rather peculiar image... (I would gladly have kept the cover intact...).
The reason why I show this image is the fact that the two models are now exactly synchronous: cockpit insides finished and ready to be 'covered'.

First picture:
Why...?
Why this tab (a), meant to connect both sides of the outside skin of the cockpit/fuselage of the T-1 at the bottom? Why present it twice as large as needed, knowing that half the size(b) fills exactly the gap in the ring (c) that will join it to the next part? Questions, questions...

Second picture:
Center fuselage part of the E-4 finished and, to the right, the same part for the T-1 under construction. with a wonderful weapon shield (don't know what it stood for) on the side:

The small cockpit window, in the E-4 integrated in the cockpit, is in the T-1 part of the fuselage skin. The glass for this small window is supposed to be added only when mounting the cockpit (see second image). I don't think that will work. Therefore I added the glass at this stage (a).
Unfortunately, adding the T-1 cockpit is indispensable (b) to continue working towards the rear of the plane so this T-1 cockpit will have to be the next job.

I told you that the T-1 cockpit was next. But therefore it was necessary to mount the complex aiming device (c) and the steel protection shield (b) to be placed behind and on top of the pilot seat. The cockpit at the rear is still under construction... horribly difficult and with inside and outside strips so fragile that I feel more like a surgeon -I can only cross my fingers...

Yess... the operation was a success! =) -what I mean to say is that with my skills (I am just a hobbyist and amateur) this was a result that I could only hope for: the Messerschmitt cockpit with its mixture of angular and rounded forms is a challenge. If anybody would ask me to do this cockpit a second time I don't know if I would make it... But I must say that fit of this T-1 cockpit was excellent.
I told you that adding the T-1cockpit was indispensable to continue work towards the rear. I will now have to handle this centre section with very much care (the underside, where the center wing section will be mounted, is very fragile too, without any reinforcement).

Hi professor Bernie!
If you mean the cockpit inside: I don't know if you own a copy of the T-1. If so, you can see that all the inside cockpit parts are light gray and therefore contrast strongly against the night grey outside parts. But you are the teacher, I am the pupil

As promised, I am now working towards the rear. The unusual concept of the center section of the T-1 compared to the E-4 did not cause any problems after all; this next section gave enough strength to its rear. Fit of the T-4 was good, and excellent for the E-4.
Don't be mistaken about the surface details of the T-1: these dark grey, almost black colors are very unforgiving, much less "sexy" and spectacular then the colors of the E-4. Sometimes difficult to see on the dark background, everything is there, all the texts that are so much easier to read on the E-4, like "24V" (a), "Sauerstoff für Atemgerät" (b) and "Einsteigklappe" (c).
On the third picture the German symbols on the next sections for both models show how much these sections, like the previous ones, are identical in design (i.e. where the sections are interlocking).

So different...and yet so similar:

Thanks Josve..

Please note this omission at the indicated spot in the instructions for the Halinsk1 E-4: part W18** (which is missing in the instructions) should be mounted 'flat' at the rear of cz. 44 and will later support vertical stabilizer part W19e.

As you can see the the fuselage sections that I just added are not the same in length. This is caused by the fact that design of the tail wheel cases (coming next) for both models differ.

Thanks, Dansls1!

Anyone sharing the T-1 build with me? Then please note this error in the tail section:
Using parts Wg6+C10b (see a) as reinforcement at the rear for the tail wheel box (as the instructions seem to suggest) will result in a wrong position inside part 9 (see b): the opening in the box will not correspond with the opening in the outer fuselage part and there will be no support for vertical stabilizer part Wg5...
Solution: use Wg6+C10b, combined with Wg5, to close part 9 'flat' at the rear (with the printed side towards the tail wheel box) and insert and fix the box at the proper location working from the other side.

Forget about what I told you yesterday! There is an error, and it is a serious one because nothing will fit once you start the vertical stabilizer... I discovered that it is all caused by outerline(a). It should not be there! The outerline should be (b), thus creating enough space to build the vertical stabilzer reinforcement inside the fuselage end (and even at a distance of 1mm from the end -see c- as discribed much, much later in the instructions...). Yes I am proud that I found this out 8)

The E-1 with the -corrected :]- tail section plus the stabilizer frame in place.
Now I have a few questions:

-what is the 'casing' above the tail wheel for? Was this tailwheel retractable ? I have only seen pictures with the main gear retracted; it looks like the tail wheel is always visible.
- the T-1 offers a tail with a swastika (that I will hide on my pictures) on the rudder and one without; is this for respect or consideration or to respect the law or did the version without swastika actually exist? I ask this question mainly because the Halinski E-4 version offers only the first option.

I want to thank both of you for these very usefull answers!