5.KBW - Chambord, L'Instant Durable, 1:300

  • Hello John!


    Although I am not a specialist for architecture models, I look at your building reports from time to time. The very clean and accurate technology, which you use, pleases me. In addition the results of your work are charming masterpieces and a feast for the eyes.
    The solution for the figuration of domes with the turning woodpiece pleases me much - make it exactly the same. However I use still another small piece of tissue paper to stick the dome on the form (without stick down the wood with the paper). See also:


    ISU-152 / Modelik / 1:25 - FERTIG!


    Love of greetings
    Josef

  • Dear Josef,


    I am honoured and pleased that you have commented on my architectural builds. Thank you.


    In closing cone shapes, I knew that there was something missing from my technique. The segments want to spring back and have to be held in place until they stick. (I do not glue the segments to the wood - I keep the cone above the wood so it won't stick. But then I'm trying to hold segments steady until the glue dries unsupported.


    You method is brilliant. The tissue provides full contact with the segments! I am going to try to use the translator to figure out how you get the tissue cone off the wooden template form without sticking. Shape with just water?


    There is a lot of cone forming on the turrets and towers of Chambord Josef. I must learn how to use your technique.


    I'm learning from The Master,
    Thank you again Josef,
    John

  • Dear John,


    once again fascinating to see how you build this model! There is always great care how you make the parts and add the enforcements.


    Looking forward to see the finished castle.


    Best wishes,


    Matthias

  • Josef,


    Am I correct with this summary of closing a cone?
    (following the photos of making the shell projectile)


    1. Make a wooden form.
    2. Encase the form with one layer of tissue.
    3. Use diluted glue (such as white glue + water) to coat the tissue
    4. Tool the tissue into shape on the form. While doing this rotate the form often to prevent the tissue
    from sticking to the wooden form. (?)
    5. Remove the newly created tissue mold and set aside.
    6. Slip the cylinder with the segmented top over the wooden form. Gently spread the segments open like
    the petals of a flower.
    7. Place the tissue mold onto the wooden form and slide down to the base of the segments.
    8. Moisten the segments with glue and tool them closed around the tissue liner.


    John

  • Hello Matthias,


    Thank you! Good to hear from you. The sun is shining here in Peterborough, but it's a bit chilly. (3 degrees Celsius) Fall is approaching on horseback.


    Chambord has much to offer. Many of the French models in this chateau series use small, delicate parts that are difficult to cut out without losing some of their detail. (e.g. finials) Other large parts such as courtyards or terraces depend on light flimsy underpinnings. The countless chimneys and dormers often do not have the correct pitch angle. They often lean forward.


    Having said that, the models are delightful to view when completed. They are both challenging and fun to build. And, as you know, the history they hold adds to the enjoyment of researching them.


    Cheers...John

  • Thank you John!


    Autumn is also slowly coming its way to Tokyo, though it is still rather warm here with 15 C in the morning and some rain dropping on the windows tonight.


    I had seen many of the L'Instant Durable models while living in France. It is a nice idea to offer the paper models in museums shops and other shops close by the originals. Building the models tells you much more about the architecture and the dimensions of the entire construction than just looking at pictures. It is a good education tool as well to make kids/people thing about the time and the history of the people who lived and worked in the place.


    Unfortunately L'Instant Durable never made a model of the Strasbourg Munster other than a postcard. It would have gone well with their other churches in 1:250


    Best wishes,


    Matthias

  • Dear Matthias,


    I agree with you that building these historically significant structures makes one much more aware of their scale. I also agree that they are very useful for educational purposes. If I were still in the classroom, I would have them on display and be using them to enrich many programs. As a matter of fact, I will be approaching the local high schools and offering to bring in specific models to enhance curricula.


    Cheers...John

  • Hello Stephan,


    I apologize for not acknowledging your earlier post. Thank you. Yes, there are many chimneys on Chambord's roofs. When I get into them, I'll let you know the model's count.


    Cheers...John


  • Dear John,


    Thank you for the kind words ... :rotwerd:


    My buildingreports (with description of the technics) you can find also there in english:


    http://forum.zealot.com/t138259-2/


    I'm not sure that the translation of tissue is correct. In german it would be 'Seidenpapier' direct translated into silkpaper. It is a very thin, but strong paper, used to cover bouquet of flowers or as package for chinaware and tableware.Look also here:


    http://www.modulor.de/shop/oxi…search/searchparam/tissue


    Your later written description of the procedur is correct!
    To point 4: You can also use some wax to save the wood from sticking to the tissue mold.
    To point 5: It is not necessary to remove the tissue before making the cylinder.


    Kindly regards
    Josef

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    Originally posted by fuchsjos
    [quote]Original von John


    ...I'm not sure that the translation of tissue is correct. In german it would be 'Seidenpapier' direct translated into silkpaper. It is a very thin, but strong paper, used to cover bouquet of flowers or as package for chinaware and tableware...


    Kindly regards
    Josef


    Greetings from Toronto!


    I've been following your architectural builds from the wings for a couple of months, now. They are very inspiring, particularly the one on Reims, which really caught my attention. I haven't picked it up, yet, but I was able to find Chartres. Some day I'll begin to tackle it.


    I think the paper Josef is talking about is called Japanese tissue here in Canada. You should be able to find it in a hobby shop that caters to balsa wood flying airplane models, such as those made by Guillow's.


    Cheers,
    Mike :prost:

    Why take Life seriously? You'll never get out of it alive!

  • Hello Mike.
    Nice to see a fellow Ontarian here! This is a wonderful forum Mike. Welcome aboard.
    Thanks for the tip about the tissue.


    Hi Walter,
    Thank you for your 'over the top' comments. A nice thing about posting on this forum is that you can pick and choose the photos that give the best impression. It's easy to trash the ones that show the goofs.


    Here are the assembled pieces for the Henri V turret.

  • Hello Stephan,
    I wonder if they count the number of chimneys by the number of flues in the masonry chimney stack. I do not see the high number you mentioned. In each turret I see only three large flues. Perhaps the one that has a roof over it contains a number of flues that vent out around the edge of the chimney roof. Don't know.


    The name of the game with this model seems to be to get all the verticals standing properly. In this photo, the base of the lower chimney block on the left is tipping outward. It's being pushed by the roof.

  • Dear Josef,


    I was unsuccessful in my first attempt to find the tissue you mentioned. In the meantime, I came upon the idea of using Saran Wrap (plastic wrap). It worked well, but unlike your method, the Saran Wrap stays on the wooden mold. I think your method is superior. The tissue would cleanly release with the dome firmly attached.


    Mike, a new member on the forum suggested searching the tissue at a hobby store where they sell balsa wood airplanes.


    Thanks again,
    John

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    Who's complaining? This is our hobby and passion - right?


    :genau:right :genau:


    Cheers, Herbert

  • Sorry John,


    but I have to disrupt your nice report to say that this is wonderful work!


    It will be a beautiful model of a magnificent castle.


    Have a nice weekend,


    Matthias

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  • Mathias and David.


    Thanks for the positive comments gentlemen. Photographing the model, describing its construction and discussing various techniques, for me, is as interesting as the build itself.


    Chambord is taking far more time than I thought it would. Another week should complete the donjon or keep.


    Work continues on the second pavilion...

  • Two errors surfaced with the construction of the second pavilion. One white dormer roof footprint was much too large for the roof, and another roof was impossible to put in place as folded. In the first case, the white patch was painted in and in the second, the part had to be cut into pieces and completely rebuilt.


    In these pictures, the two pavilions and the staircase lantern are in place.

  • Two more pavilions to build and I can break out of this donjon. I'm eager to move on to new challenges with the east and west wings with their galleries, staircases and arcades.

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