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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:16

Build: Up-Scale 1:20, Republic P-47D-25, Halinski 3/06

NOTE:This thread is an extract of my posts from the thread of the same name at the Zealot/CardModels.net and Papermodelers.com sites. Now that she is finally complete (almost 7 months - I'm slow!), I wanted to share it with the Kartonbau community. Some posts will read a bit disjointed because of the time compression and lack of intervening posts from other members of the other forum.



For my next project, I've opted to Up-scale a printed kit! I know that the vogue seems to be to build smaller, but I want to go the other way and see what happens. So here I'm going to make a stab at building the Halinski P-47D-25 Thunderbolt upsized 65% to approximately 1:20 scale.

I've wanted to tackle this kit as I really like the Jug, but it weighs in at around 1200 parts and I just could not see doing it at 1:33 scale. The Zero was bad enough! I think the level of detail of this kit will work out well at the larger scale, plus I'm tentatively planning to add some extra detail where it makes sense (and is visible!), for example landing gear and wheel wells, etc. And I’ll probably add some extra cockpit detail too as long as I can see it (No more totally gratuitous detail for me!).

As for why I picked 1:20 scale; if I'm going to do this, I wanted a big enough increase to make it worth doing. I toyed with the idea of a double to 1:16 or so, but quickly realized that quite a few parts (skins mostly) would span more than 1 letter size sheet. One of my criteria is to print at home to normal size paper, so the thought of joining a bunch of skin parts in the middle nixed that idea. Plus – where in the world would I PUT such a monster! As it turns out, a 65% increase will cause me to only have to split one part - the main wing skins - which have a pretty natural seam printed on them about midway out where I can make the joint.

For a rescale from a printed kit, there is a lot of preparation - particularly for an upscale. First there is scanning. I have been looking at some old threads and in particular posts by Leif and Gil that have some good info for scanning and rescaling. So a big hat tip to those guys because I'm stealing a lot of their info here!

The first thing I had to do was cut each page of the book roughly in half, weaving the cut among the parts, so that I end up with chunks that fit on the scanner bed.

Scanning:

The important thing to know about scanning is to NOT allow the scanning software to assume you are scanning photos, or otherwise be allowed to make "exposure" decisions. If you allow this, scans from one page to the next will not come out the same - will not match color and darkness. My scanner (Epson) has a Document setting, and in addition I had to force it each time to turn OFF Auto Exposure, even though I had picked Document.

One reality about scanning seems to be that the color and darkness you get from a scan and subsequent prints WILL NOT exactly match the kit. Perhaps with really high-end equipment this may be possible, but with the type of stuff we have at home, my attempts seem to indicate that you will frustrate yourself to insanity if you try. The important thing is to get consistency between the scans so things match and to try to just get reasonably close on color. For this kit I really only had one noticeably bad result and that was with Reds. This model has a red cowl and rudder, and these were coming out more dark, almost rust-colored. So for these parts only I rescanned that page and allowed the software to do auto-exposure and they came out a good bit brighter. So I will just substitute those parts only.

About DPI (dots per inch). I was tempted to use higher DPI settings (like 720) to help bring out more of that fantasic Halinski printed detail. I could, in fact, see differences in greatly magnified sections at higher DPI. But printed, not so much. And the file size increase is HUGH! (doubling DPI quadrouples the number of pixels). Load/save/editing times dictate that you not go overboard on DPI!

To summarize, my settings for my Epson scanner are:

Type: Document
No Auto-Exposure
Arrange the input size to just fit each page fragment (using the crop box)
300 dpi
165% Size
Save to TIFF files (do NOT use JPEG!)

Editing:

As long as you get a good scan using a document setting, you might have the resulting files’ color pretty like you need them, but one tip I got from reading the experienced guys' posts at this point was to ensure that your files have their “white point” adjusted – again to help make sure that there is color consistency from one file to the next. The process here would vary in details from one editing program to another. In Photoshop, you open up a file, select Image/Adjustments/Levels, click the Set White Point dropper, and click somewhere in the “white” area between parts. If the page background is a little off-color, everything will be adjusted until that point you clicked is white. In my experience scanning this model, there was rarely any difference made when I did this, as they were quite close to white already.

One thing I did after setting the white point was to save the files as Photoshop PSD files. This made the files about half the size and thus allows faster load/save times. You just want to make sure that at no time in the process you allow the files to be saved in any lossy compression format (JPEG, etc)

The MAJOR task now is segregating parts. A lot of printed kits are printed on paper a good bit larger than our “letter” size (or even European A4 size), plus the 65% increase obviously means that the resultant files are much larger than you can print with a typical home printer! So, now you’ve got to split things up to fit on whatever you are printing to. The easy way would be to just get into your editor and select letter size groups of parts and then cut and paste those into new files. Or even just print sections of each file letting the parts get cropped at the margins. I decided that while I was going to all this trouble anyway, I’d segregate them into assembly order – a big job! But I always get tired of hunting for parts so I thought I’d do the work on the front end. I’m not really convinced it’s worth all the trouble. I’m not yet finished with it yet, but I’ve got enough pages made to get a long way into the construction.

You need to at least segregate parts into categories by laminating thickness – all the “1mm” parts together, “0.5mm” parts together, regular card stock parts on the rest, etc. This kit has 6 thickness categories to worry about (more on that later).

Printing:

On the printer side, you also want to make sure the printer driver is not making “exposure” decisions for you, so you’ll want to select something
for output that is NOT Photo. I’m printing on a Canon i860, and it has custom settings to print as type: Graphic. I also make the Brightness setting = Light to more closely match the original book’s darkness.

Materials:

Upsizing the parts themselves is not the end of the battle. You also need to make sure your stock and laminating thicknesses are multiplied as well. Some basic facts on current Halinski books:

Card pages are 0.21 mm thick (same as 65 lb Wausau Bright White)
Paper pages are 0.10 mm thick (about the same as 22 lb inkjet paper)

I have a pad of Strathmore Bristol, which measures 0.32 mm thick, a 52% increase over the Halinski card stock. Close enough I think for upsizing the card stock parts. This stock is pretty stiff, and does not fold nearly as cleanly and easily as our regular weight card, so I think for many small parts that will be rolled and folded, I’ll still print a 65lb stock version. The thicker Bristol will be used for skins and parts that are basically flat, and any other things where dimensions might make a difference in fit.

As for paper parts, anything that’s just a pattern I’ll print to regular paper, but for those parts that get rolled around wire, etc, I will probably try to upscale it to something like 28 lb paper.

As for laminations, 0.5 mm and 1 mm come out to 0.825 and 1.65 mm respectively. I’ve got a stock of ~.80 mm cardboard from the back of X-ray films (hat tip to Ted!), so I think I’ve got that one nailed pretty close. That leaves the parts to be laminated to “Bristol” or double that (marked + and ++). I will probably just use the Bristol I’m making the skin parts from for these, but some experimentation may be in order to see for sure.

I’ve got the feeling that this one is going to take a while! And I might need to buy a bigger cutting mat :)

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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:18

After much heavy knife work, the main framework around the cockpit. In one aspect, this plane is a good choice to upsize since it DOES have a lot of framework (amazingly, probably 90% coverage!) and will thus have the needed strength. However it's a chore to cut all these formers in 1.6mm stock!

I think I see another advantage to large scale. Can't get too close with the camera on those overall structure shots - thus not as much fault-finding! :)



Onward to cockpit detail...

Here are the rudder pedals mounted to the shelf that will also hold the instrument panel. When I first saw these parts, I thought - "wonder why they have church doors in this kit?" As you can see from the cube, the pedals at this scale are ~1 cm wide. I've already decided I REALLY like the detail stuff at this scale. This was not nearly as tedious and frustrating as it would have been at 1:33.



Shelf with pedals mounted:



Here is the front of the instrument panel. Like I mentioned before, I tried the tiny wire rings around the gauge enhancement and was not really happy with it and the tedium of doing it. So I've stolen Ted's method of printing 2 copies of the panel, using the screw punch on one of them and trapping some thin plastic in between to simulate glass (which due to light positions, you can't see here). I think this method looks nice and is WAY easier to boot. I have a added a couple of switches and a knob and made the indicator lights more 3D. That's about all the extra detail I care to add to this.

There are a ton of little "cans" to put on the back of the panel to represent the backide of the gauges. a pic of those later...



Continuing on in the cockpit, here is a view of the "cans" at the back of the panel, and an attempt at simulating wires. I don't have a pic of this section of a real cockpit to show the route of the wires, so I'm just more or less following Pawell's lead on this. I'm not too hung up on being exactly right here. :)



And here we have the completed control stick and on the right you can see the seat support structure.


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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:19

Haven't had much time at the mat this week. I did get the throne done, finally!



Have finished up the central cockpit detail, with a few floor doodads (floordads?) The rounded knobs over on those levers I made by building up globs of glue/paint mixture.



Next up is the right cockpit side wall. Unlike most Halinski kits, this one is flat, and has framework that is built up to the outside, as seen here. The whole thing slides in between the bulkheads when done. I was a bit alarmed in that I had to trim a good bit off the length of this part to fit between the bulkheads. I test fit the inner skin part to my framework to check to make sure I did not have the bulkheads way off, and it seems spot-on perfect, so this piece must have just been designed a little too big. At 1:33 it would have been a little less alarming! :)



Next bit of cockpit detail - the right wall and it's "hangers on". There are a few bits of extra detail here. Most obvious is the oxygen hose and the fitting at the free end. It's made from very thick floral wire, wrapped with thin floral wire ("paddle wire", actually, 26ga) and painted.

The red radio buttons are also wire, cut a good bit longer than needed, and pushed down through holes made in the box with a pin before cutting it out. Then flow some CA on from the back to hold them in place.

I'm printing 2 of each part sheet, a thick one that's more or less the proper upscaled thickness and one from normal 65lb stock. I'm using the thin version for most of the folded and rolled bits. That leaves another copy of each part, and where there is detail printed such as knobs, I'm using my punch to cut just that little bit out and paste to the larger part, to get a bit more 3D effect.



Left side of cockpit done. A few extra knobs and such added.



Finished cockpit, left side:



And right side again. The inner skins also carry some fairly involved sills and frames that meet with those white spots here on the tops of the cockpit walls.


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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:21

Hard to see in this pic, but this is a little detail that lives under the upper rail inside of the inner cockpit area skins:



And jumping ahead, 6 skin parts complete the fuselage center section. I was hoping for that magic Halinski fit here, but it was not to be. I must have left the formers a little too big. I tend to cut on or outside the lines and I hardly ever sand them by default. Magnified by scale, I was left with skins not nearly meeting up. Luckily I did a bunch of dry fitting on the outer skins! So I pulled the inner skins back off, dremel sanded the frames a bit, replaced the inner skins with regular card stock instead of the thicker bristol, and fought it every step of the way. It came out OK, but it was not pleasent! there's a bit of a registration mismatch visible hear near the back, but it will (I think) be covered with wing fairing.

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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:21

Today we have the forward fuselage sections, including some built up structures I'm calling "vent boxes" for want of a better term. This is the forward 2 sections assembled, then a WPS section is cut out. The assembled basic box and pipe are at the bottom.



Next is the box installed into the fuse sections. The pipe is an exhaust waste gate. As you'll see in later pics, there is a vane that can be closed at the end of the pipe. When open, exhaust is emitted here at the front. when closed, the exhaust is forced to the BACK of the plane where the turbochager lives, and is vented there after compressing intake air. I think this is one of the reasons the Jug's fuse is so deep, since it has to duct exhaust and intake air from front to back and compressed air from back to the front. That's a bunch of pipes! I wonder why this was put in the back? Seems like an overly complex arrangment. Perhaps for balance?

The little semi-circle seen here is added structure that will be cut off once the sections are mated.



Next image is the 2 front sections and boxes mated with the section previously attached to the main fuse sections.



Finally, the completed sections with waste gate vane and vent parts. The forward part of the box seems to hold some sort of radiators.


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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:23

Here's the aft skeleton assembled and attached to the main structure. When I say this fuselage is solid, I'm not kidding. Talk about over-engineered! It's solid interlockng frames from the forward spar slot back to the tail. And is it ever HEAVY! This is a good overall shot illustrating how big she's getting, shown on an 18" mat.



Here we have an intercooler duct box:



And the duct box installed in the fuselage. That sloped piece inside comes up and joins the fuse skin, so that's why it's painted with the patterns.



Next couple of skin parts installed, and the turbocharger just barely visible at the top (The round thing). I alluded to this earlier, but will mention some details about this plane's turbo system again here. As you can see the turbo is in the BACK of the plane. It was placed here to aid in weight distribution. But it makes for some long piping runs. The intake air comes in the bottom of the cowl and is ducted to the back. Some of it is diverted into the intercoolers to cool the compressed air, and vented out the sides here. The rest goes into turbocharger, compressed, through the intercoolers, and back to the front of the plane. The exhaust comes back here to drive the turbo and is exhausted at the top of this turbocharger (well, bottom, when the plane is right side up) and out the duct you'll see in the last photo.



Completed rear of the fuselage (well, except for a couple more scoopy doodads added later). I encountered a couple of head scratchers back here. First, that skin that surrounds the turbo exhaust duct. You can see how it is curved up on the sides. The way this part is designed, it is one piece and the part at the front of the duct was supposed to be curved up like the sides. I don't know about you other hombres, but I just don't have the mojo to be able to make such a complicated bend and make it look like something. So I cheated and trimmed the part back around that duct so I did not have to curve it, plus cut it into 2 parts to make the whole thing easier.

The other thing is that all the parts on this model are printed assuming you might leave the wheels up, so you have to cut out the tail wheel opening. No biggie, but the wheel well inner liner was also solid, so I had to glue it on first to get it stable, cut the opening from the skins
and put them on, and finally use the skin openings as a guide to cut out the liner opening. Maybe this is standard, but it's my first such encounter.


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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:24

Here are the fixed tail bits in place. This model is NOT designed for moveable control surfaces. I've been looking at it trying to figure a way
to do it anyway, but so far I'm stumped as the design does not make this easy without major mods. Frankly, I don't think it's terribly important on a static display model, but I'll continue to noodle it a bit. I'm not putting the rudder and elevators on until later anyway.

For now, it's on to the engine



Here are the tail control surfaces attached. I did not hinge them. Not smart enough to figure out how without some significant redesign....


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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:24

Been working on the motor, time consuming even with a lot of modelling time, which I've not had! Plus I went slow, trying to make it look better than the last ones I've done, and I am pleased with the result. Here she is, all 350+ parts!

As you can see, I added a few extras. Laser cut nuts from Draf Model really add a nice "dimension". The ignition harness is some large floral wire wrapped around the top of an Aleen's glue bottle to get the circle shape, then CA'd the "wires" onto that. The material I used for the wires is really great stuff - it's 1mm "Stretch Magic" bead and jewelry cord. This stuff actually feels like rubber coated wire. It's a bit shinier than I'd like, but we'll pretend this is a brand new engine right off the assembly line!


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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:26

So, since this is an upscale, there surely is not a commercially made canopy available! I've been wanting to join the ranks of Ted, Carl, Shrike, and others, so now was the time to set up my own vacuforming rig!

I got an unfinished jewelry box from Michaels and did the holes on the bottom, sealed shut the top (which is now the bottom). Mine's a bit larger probably than others since this project called for a large canopy. I hope it won't prove to be too large later on for smaller stuff!

Shown here is the box and the finished canopy mold made from the sculpy clay, baked, and sanded. I stole some of the kid's legos for a temporary stand.



I'm using the standard (by now) clipboard plastic holder, and added some good strong clamps to the sides. For now I've decided to go "old school" and used the stovetop / 2x4 stand method to melt the plastic and found it worked well. It might be a function of the thicker (0.020") plastic I'm using, but I found the melt quite slow and controlled. I thought I was going to be really rushed lest I melt the plastic to the stovetop if I didn't move quick enough!

One thing I noticed - as soon as you peel the protective film from the plastic it has a lot of static attraction for every mote of dust in the room! I spent a lot of time getting it all off!



And here is my finished first attempt. It came out OK, but I'll probably do some more to try to get it better. Among other things, I think I made the shoulders of the mold too pronounced where the canopy edges are to be and this made the bottom edge areas flare out too much.


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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:26

Got the canopy and gunsight done. Here is the sight and a view inside the front of the canopy.

If you notice the canopy pastic looks quite opaque. This is partly a trick of the light I'm using to work under & take the pics. It looks much clearer in person. But it's also partly really not as clear as I'd like. I think it's because I probably went TOO thick on the plastic and it might not have stretched as smooth on vacuuming as a thinner plastic might. Next time I'll go thinner. What do you other vacu-formers use? 0.010? 0.015?



An overall view of the complete canopy. I doused the overhead swing arm lamp for this one and the plastic looks a bit clearer, closer to how it
looks in person.

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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:27

We're on to the wings now. The first pic is of the completed "bones", and oh my does this thing have one heck of a skeleton!



Next is a closer shot of a completed wheel well (well, without the landing gear of course!) Note that all those staggered depth slots in back are there to receive the guns later.



Lastly, an almost complete wing (sans control surfaces), showing the nice curved areas ready to receive the flaps and ailerons.


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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:28

I thought I'd take a minute while completing the other wing and detail what I did on the tips this time. One thing I wanted to try on this model was to emulate real wingtip lights (Red and Green). Since I had to build the tip first and then put it on in order to make it easy to get the "light" installed, this served as another technique experiment. Here are the 2 tip parts, edge colored and glued together first. Note that I
first cut out the triangle shaped "lights" that were printed on. Sorry about the depth of field focus!



Next is the view inside with the material for the lens glued in with some CA. I've painted part of the inside gray as well as some of the wing framing behind where you can see through the lens so you don't see the white card. I did not attempt to build a box or emulate a light inside.

The material I used is standard inkjet transparency film, on which I printed Red and Green squares. There's enough of this material on one sheet to do dozens of planes!



Then, slip the completed tip on! I really like doing them this way. You can control the glueing of the tip edges better, getting a closer match and less "pinch", and also get a good seam when you put it on because you can dry fit and trim as needed.

The lens result is not 100% right, in that done this way they are not flush with the outside edge of the skin as a real one would be, plus the edge is not rounded, bit using material like this, you can't really achieve that. It's good enough for me at this point.



Here's an overall view so far with the wings temporarily fitted with their spars (not glued yet, I'm waiting to test fit the flaps).


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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:29

Now to finish the wings. Here is an installed aileron:



And the next 2 are of the fairing pieces at the wing root, which are fairly large in this model. The rear part blends in with a tab strip that was installed as part of the fuselage skin way back in time:




Next up are flaps. Even these are built like a tank, with tons of framework:



Finished flaps, top and bottom, showing the hinge parts. The kit comes with 2 sets of hinge parts, one like this for mounting the flaps extended, and a short set for mounting them in the retracted position:



Finally, the flaps mounted:



Now it on to landing gear (ugh!)

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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:30

As is my general habit, I start the landing gear with the tail wheel so I'm not banging the mains up later trying to put the tail in. This tailwheel has a good bit of detail, as is Halinksi's usual design. Too bad it all gets covered up in the next step! Alas, I'm dumb enough to do the detail as good as I can just for the picture!



Like I said, now you see it, now you don't! Finished tail wheel with safety cover on and the doors mounted.



Can't put it off any longer, main landing gear is next, and my least favorite part of it are the wheels, so I'll do them first. I know you guys
have seen wheels made a million times, but I'm going to try something new (for me) on these a couple of steps in, so I'll just go ahead and show it all.

First is just the laminated circles glued together. The one on the right has been rough shaped with an X-Acto knife. I suggest using Titebond
or a similar good woodworking glue to stick the plates together, as it dries hard and is sandable, unlike most of the normal white glues.



Next shot is after they've been sanded while spun in a dremel tool. I had to cut recesses into the sides as these wheels are so big that it was
too thick for the mandrel screw to reach through. After sanding, I brushed on a coat of Titbond, and sanded it smooth after drying to lay down the paper fuzzies.



Lastly for today is a picture of what I'm going to try to attempt on these wheels. I'm going to try to cut cross hatching on them to simulate diamond pattern tread. This oughta be fun! :)


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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:31

So I've finally got one wheel done (sans the hubs) and here are the steps I took. First, I decided how many treads I wanted. Judging from the previous picture of a real wheel, I initially guessed 36, but they ended up too small, so I tried 30, and thought that looked about right. You can see in this picture that I made a little template to use to make little tick marks around the perimeter on both sides. As for making the template, simple deal. I fired up Excel, and made a plain (no color) pie graph with 30 equal slices!



Then I connected the dots on both sides with pencil, skipping 3 down in this case to get a pleasing angle.



Then comes cutting the slots. I tried several things. I tried using the razor saw first, the cutoff wheel first, but finally settled on something I could control better. I used an X-Acto knife to slice around along the lines cutting sort of a V. Then I used the razor saw to deepen and square the slots a little.



Finally, the painted wheel. I don’t have a very steady hand, so this is a bit rough. The lines aren’t exactly straight and the treads aren’t all the same size and shape. Oh well, it looks OK from a handheld distance, and that’s good enough for me.

I was in the hobby shop a little while back and saw some perfect size Dubro R/C wheels with straight tread. I was sorely tempted. Picked them up and put them down about half a dozen times. While I’m not a Paper Purist by any stretch, I finally decided that if I CAN do a decent wheel in paper I will do so rather than wuss out and go with the nice looking rubber ones.



To wrap up this post, a hobby shop find that all you folks turning wheels with a rotary tool are going to want. I stumbled across a Pinewood Derby supply and tool rack and found this. It can chuck up almost a half inch width! Much better than the Dremel cutoff wheel mandrel. I wish I’d had this a week ago!


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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:32

Continuing on with the wheels, here are both strut and wheel assemblies and the landing gear door main components.



Views of the mounted wheels and doors





View of the belly. The mounts here are for the external fuel tank. I don't really like the look of these, and I especially didn't like this one, so I'm leaving it off.



Engine again - this time with the firewall mounted



Cowl assembly. The kit provides two formers that are used to shape the cowl. I joined them with a tube to hold alignment and distance



I deviated a bit for the spinner. The kit provides one of those flower petal ended tubes, which I despise. I wrapped a whole lot of paper with titebond, then rough cut and sanded smooth. Here is the roughed spinner.


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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:32

Finished at last!!!!!!

Some overall views and closeup of prop and engine area:


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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 14:37

Hi Rick,

Its my supreme joy to see your awesome model here.
Congratulation :super: :super: :super: :respekt: :respekt: :respekt:

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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 15:01

Wohow,
now I know why I still have this museum scale 1:16 or 1:24 project in mind. Simply speechless...

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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 16:34

just beautifull... need to get back to my one...

i think it's about time to reveal a little secret of mine... :(
there's a story full of blood, tears and dark passion behind all this, but there's no need to share it :)
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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 17:17

Oh my pawell, that's a sad and gruesome sight! I was wondering when/if your build would resume.

Rick

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Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, 17:41

well i already have second kit for a few months now, but i lack some free time these days... but your build is really motivating, so i hope i'll hit it asap...
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Freitag, 14. September 2007, 14:07

Thanks all for the kind comments! Norm and pawell, I'll be interested in following your upcoming theads. Seems to be a lot of "Thunderbolting" going on!

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Freitag, 14. September 2007, 14:50

As almost everything has been said about a big :D and great =D> =D> =D> model, I have a question: what's next? Looking forward to it ;)

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Freitag, 14. September 2007, 16:19

Well, since my last 4 models have been radial engine planes, I can assure you it won't be one of those! :) Actually, I'm going to do Mad Ludwig's castle as a change of pace for a while, but then???? At some point I want to do another upscale, probably the Halinski Dauntless. At 1500 parts, no way I'm doing that regular size!

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As almost everything has been said about a big :D and great =D> =D> =D> model, I have a question: what's next? Looking forward to it ;)

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